Identification help for Impatiens sp.

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Dhyey shah

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Sep 7, 2022, 9:15:49 AM9/7/22
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Hello! 
I am a new member of the group and this is my first post for ID help. Hope all the details are present. 
Location: Lower Dibang Valley, Arunachal Pradesh
Date: 22nd May 2022

Thanks in advance!

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 7, 2022, 9:19:49 AM9/7/22
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Welcome, Dhyey ji,
Difficult to say anything with this image.
If, you have other images, pl. post.
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 7, 2022, 9:58:33 AM9/7/22
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Unfortunately, I do not :( 

Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 7, 2022, 10:52:14 AM9/7/22
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Impatiens roingensis Hareesh, A.Joe & M.Sabu !

Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju


Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 8, 2022, 3:11:57 AM9/8/22
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Couple of databases says syn and some other say accepted.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 9:41 PM Dhyey shah <dhye...@gmail.com> wrote:
POWO shows it to be a synonym of Impatiens arguta Hook.f. & Thomson

Is roingensis a ssp or a variation from the nominate? 

J.M. Garg

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Sep 14, 2022, 7:24:41 AM9/14/22
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May I request the authors and others, who published subsequently to tell whether to treat this as Impatiens roingensis Hareesh, A.Joe & M.Sabu or as syn. of Impatiens arguta (as followed by POWO).

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 14, 2022, 10:41:48 AM9/14/22
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Thanks a lot, Prashob ji.

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Recently synonimised the same..

Tabish

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Sep 14, 2022, 11:06:22 AM9/14/22
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I think Impatiens roingensis and Impatiens arguta are reasonably distinct. Impatiens arguta has a wide distribution, China South-Central, East Himalaya, Myanmar, Nepal, Tibet. Impatiens roingensis on the other hand is restricted to Dibang valley. I think the plant here is Impatiens roingensis. When we found Impatiens roingensis in Dibang valley, it never occurred to us at all that it could be confused with Impatiens arguta. 
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 14, 2022, 11:20:36 AM9/14/22
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Thanks, Tabish ji.
But the authors themselves and Dr. Gogoi (subsequent publications as per references in POWO) think it to be a syn. of I.arguta
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Tabish

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Sep 14, 2022, 12:43:07 PM9/14/22
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You are right about the publications Garg ji. I must say I am surprised with this. To me the lower sepal of the two look different.  In the original paper describing Impatiens roingensis, the authors did compare it with Impatiens arguta. However, I am no expert on these matters.
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