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raja kanwal

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Jun 21, 2010, 8:31:05 AM6/21/10
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    Dear All,
    Posting a photo of a fruit for Id seen in Lower Dibang valley, Arunachal Pradesh.

    Date/Time- 19.05.2010 

    Location- Place Dibang valley  Arunachal Pradesh, Altitude- 400m, GPS-

    Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Wild

    Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Tree

    Height/Length- NA

    Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- NA

    Inflorescence Type/ Size- NA

    Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- NA

    Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- NA

    Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- NA

    Thanks & regards,

           Khilendra S. Kanwal
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mani nair

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Jun 21, 2010, 8:34:56 AM6/21/10
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Rajaji, I think this is the cone of  pine tree.  Trees seen also in higher altitutdes of Kashmir and Himachal Pradesh.

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Mani.

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promila chaturvedi

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Jun 21, 2010, 8:40:12 AM6/21/10
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it is pine apple.
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Promila

mani nair

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Jun 21, 2010, 8:41:58 AM6/21/10
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In the plant habit it is mentioned as a Tree.  How can pineapple a tree Promilaji?

Regards,
Mani.

tanay bose

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Jun 21, 2010, 8:44:57 AM6/21/10
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Mani Ji  i too think this is a pineapple fruit !! looks same
tanay
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mani nair

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Jun 21, 2010, 8:47:43 AM6/21/10
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but Tanayji,  please see - Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-  it is mentioned as NA whereas pineapple fruit has fragrance.

Regards,

Mani.

mani nair

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Jun 21, 2010, 9:16:19 AM6/21/10
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Dear Rajaji,
 
The photo is not very clear.  Can you  please send the full photo of the fruit? and the plant also if possible?
 
Regards,
 
Mani.

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tanay bose

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Jun 21, 2010, 9:21:26 AM6/21/10
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Dear Raja ji & Mani Ji,
I am quite sure this is pineapple!! Never a pine cone which is brown n woody by nature. I will kindly ask Raja Ji for few information to resolve the ID.
  1. Complete photo of the fruit (if available) [lower portion of the fruit is missing out in the posted photo]
  2. Approx size of the fruit.
  3. Probable photo of the tree or a description of the tree (size, height, leaves, stem e.tc)
Regards
Tanay

R. Vijayasankar

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Jun 21, 2010, 9:26:03 AM6/21/10
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How about Pandanus, dear?!

With regards

R. Vijayasankar


tanay bose

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Jun 21, 2010, 9:37:36 AM6/21/10
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Dear Vijaya Ji,
I dont think this is a Pandanus fruit !! Kindly see the attachement where i have tries to compare the photo of Raja Ji's fruit with pneapple and pandanus fruit.
Regards
Tanay
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Ritesh Choudhary

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Jun 21, 2010, 10:55:47 AM6/21/10
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Pandanus from my side too.

Ritesh.

On Jun 21, 6:37 pm, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Vijaya Ji,
> I dont think this is a Pandanus fruit !! Kindly see the attachement where i
> have tries to compare the photo of Raja Ji's fruit with pneapple and
> pandanus fruit.
> Regards
> Tanay
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:56 PM, R. Vijayasankar
> <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > How about *Pandanus*, dear?!
>
> > With regards
>
> > R. Vijayasankar
>
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:21 AM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Dear Raja ji & Mani Ji,
> >> I am quite sure this is pineapple!! Never a pine cone which is brown n
> >> woody by nature. I will kindly ask Raja Ji for few information to resolve
> >> the ID.
>
> >>    1. Complete photo of the fruit (if available) [lower portion of the
> >>    fruit is missing out in the posted photo]
> >>    2. Approx size of the fruit.
> >>    3. Probable photo of the tree or a description of the tree (size,
> >>    height, leaves, stem e.tc)
>
> >> Regards
> >> Tanay
>
> >> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:46 PM, mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Dear Rajaji,
>
> >>> The photo is not very clear.  Can you  please send the full photo of the
> >>> fruit? and the plant also if possible?
>
> >>> Regards,
>
> >>> Mani.
>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:01 PM, raja kanwal <raja.kanwa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>    Dear All,
> >>>>    Posting a photo of a fruit for Id seen in Lower Dibang valley,
> >>>>    Arunachal Pradesh.
>
> >>>>    Date/Time- 19.05.2010
>
> >>>>    Location- Place Dibang valley  Arunachal Pradesh, Altitude- 400m,
> >>>>    GPS-
>
> >>>>    Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Wild
>
> >>>>    Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Tree
>
> >>>>    Height/Length- NA
>
> >>>>    Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- NA
>
> >>>>    Inflorescence Type/ Size- NA
>
> >>>>    Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- NA
>
> >>>>    Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- NA
>
> >>>>    Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- NA**
>
> >>>>    Thanks & regards,
>
> >>>>            Khilendra S. Kanwal
> >>>>            Delhi
>
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R. Vijayasankar

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Jun 21, 2010, 12:15:46 PM6/21/10
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Dear Tanay,
 
Nice comparison! but you have to compare with all species of Pandanus, not one alone!!! Because, you may know that there are 15 species Pandanus in India (and about 700 in the world) and they all differ in shape and size of their syncarps / fruits. This could be one of the uncommon endemic species of NE India, for e.g. Pandanus assamensis?
 
 
Pine apple is neither a tree, nor occurs in wild in Arunachal Pradesh, isn't it?!!!

With regards

R. Vijayasankar


tanay bose

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Jun 21, 2010, 12:19:39 PM6/21/10
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Thanks for correcting me
Tanay

cheriyan vj

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Jun 21, 2010, 1:17:59 PM6/21/10
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Dear all, 
I think it is a pineapple. It used to grow extensively in Siang, and Changlang districts of Arunachal when I was posted there between 78-80 and thereafter on my visits there. We used to get six of them for a rupee then.
cheriyan

R. Vijayasankar

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Jun 21, 2010, 9:46:22 PM6/21/10
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Thanks Cheriyan ji for the opinion.
 
Dear Kanwal ji, i think it is your turn now! Please throw more light on the plant...like....who collected? what was the habit?...occurrence (wild/cultivated)...etc. And by any chance do you have picture of the entire plant?
 
I am pretty sure that it is Pandanus. Even the habitat (river in the backround) suggests the same. Lets hear from Kanwal ji and others too...

With regards

R. Vijayasankar


raja kanwal

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Jun 22, 2010, 1:09:08 AM6/22/10
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Thanks Vijayasankar ji, I collected this cone near Sesseri river, Lower Dibang Valley District of Arunachal Pradesh. The cone was very hard not like the juicy pineapple. I could't found the entire plant. I am also suspecting that this is Pandanus species, which one please identified? 
I am posting a new picture of cone.

with best regards,

Khilendra S. Kanwal
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Smilax004

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Jun 26, 2010, 3:05:19 AM6/26/10
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I too think this is Pandanus. I think I could see a long dry leaf in
the first picture from the top of the fruit!

Regards
Giby

On Jun 22, 10:09 am, raja kanwal <raja.kanwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Vijayasankar ji, I collected this cone near Sesseri river, Lower
> Dibang Valley District of Arunachal Pradesh. The cone was very hard not like
> the juicy pineapple. I could't found the entire plant. I am also suspecting
> that this is Pandanus species, which one please identified?
> I am posting a new picture of cone.
>
> with best regards,
>
> Khilendra S. Kanwal
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:16 AM, R. Vijayasankar
> <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks Cheriyan ji for the opinion.
>
> > Dear Kanwal ji, i think it is your turn now! Please throw more light on the
> > plant...like....who collected? what was the habit?...occurrence
> > (wild/cultivated)...etc. And by any chance do you have picture of the entire
> > plant?
>
> > I am pretty sure that it is *Pandanus*. Even the habitat (river in the
> > backround) suggests the same. Lets hear from Kanwal ji and others too...
>
> > With regards
>
> > R. Vijayasankar
>
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:17 PM, cheriyan vj <cheriya...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Dear all,
> >> I think it is a pineapple. It used to grow extensively in Siang, and
> >> Changlang districts of Arunachal when I was posted there between 78-80 and
> >> thereafter on my visits there. We used to get six of them for a rupee then.
> >> cheriyan
>
> >> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:49 PM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> Thanks for correcting me
> >>> Tanay
>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM, R. Vijayasankar <
> >>> vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Dear Tanay,
>
> >>>> Nice comparison! but you have to compare with all species of Pandanus,
> >>>> not one alone!!! Because, you may know that there are 15 species Pandanus in
> >>>> India (and about 700 in the world) and they all differ in shape and size of
> >>>> their syncarps / fruits. This could be one of the uncommon endemic species
> >>>> of NE India, for e.g. *Pandanus assamensis*?
>
> >>>> To read:
> >>>>http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10125/7377/1/vol19n4-5...
>
> >>>> Pine apple is neither a tree, nor occurs in wild in Arunachal Pradesh,
> >>>> isn't it?!!!
>
> >>>> With regards
>
> >>>> R. Vijayasankar
>
> >>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:37 AM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>> Dear Vijaya Ji,
> >>>>> I dont think this is a Pandanus fruit !! Kindly see the attachement
> >>>>> where i have tries to compare the photo of Raja Ji's fruit with pneapple and
> >>>>> pandanus fruit.
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> Tanay
>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:56 PM, R. Vijayasankar <
> >>>>> vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> How about *Pandanus*, dear?!
>
> >>>>>> With regards
>
> >>>>>> R. Vijayasankar
>
> >>>>>>   On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:21 AM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Dear Raja ji & Mani Ji,
> >>>>>>> I am quite sure this is pineapple!! Never a pine cone which is brown
> >>>>>>> n woody by nature. I will kindly ask Raja Ji for few information to resolve
> >>>>>>> the ID.
>
> >>>>>>>    1. Complete photo of the fruit (if available) [lower portion of
> >>>>>>>    the fruit is missing out in the posted photo]
> >>>>>>>    2. Approx size of the fruit.
> >>>>>>>    3. Probable photo of the tree or a description of the tree (size,
> >>>>>>>    height, leaves, stem e.tc)
>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>> Tanay
>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:46 PM, mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> Dear Rajaji,
>
> >>>>>>>> The photo is not very clear.  Can you  please send the full photo of
> >>>>>>>> the fruit? and the plant also if possible?
>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
>
> >>>>>>>> Mani.
>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:01 PM, raja kanwal <
> >>>>>>>> raja.kanwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Dear All,
> >>>>>>>>>    Posting a photo of a fruit for Id seen in Lower Dibang valley,
> >>>>>>>>>    Arunachal Pradesh.
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Date/Time- 19.05.2010
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Location- Place Dibang valley  Arunachal Pradesh, Altitude-
> >>>>>>>>>    400m, GPS-
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Wild
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Tree
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Height/Length- NA
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- NA
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Inflorescence Type/ Size- NA
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- NA
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- NA
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- NA**
>
> >>>>>>>>>    Thanks & regards,
>
> >>>>>>>>>            Khilendra S. Kanwal
> >>>>>>>>>            Delhi
>
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Dr. Pankaj Kumar

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this is not Pineapple for sure.....
But if u look at history it is called Pine apple for the same reason
that it resembles a pine cone. Before the discovery of this fruit,
they used to call pine cone as pineapple only, but when fruit was
discovered, they gave new term pine cone for the gymnospermous cones
and started calling the other one as Pine apple.
Pankaj

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Is it possible to identify this Pandanus fruit ?

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Thanks a lot, Rahul ji

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This fruit is from Pandanus emarginatus. 
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