Datura for Id 250309JM1

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J.M. Garg

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Mar 24, 2009, 10:23:27 PM3/24/09
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In Krisna WS in A.P. on the bund around a big lake.
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 29, 2009, 11:03:25 PM3/29/09
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Forwarded again for Id pl.
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Dr.Gautam Joglekar

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Mar 30, 2009, 5:49:24 AM3/30/09
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Datura stramonium

J.M. Garg

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Mar 30, 2009, 9:59:41 AM3/30/09
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Hi, Gautam ji,
But it doesn't have pattern on white as in my post.

2009/3/30 Dr.Gautam Joglekar <gautam...@gmail.com>

satish phadke

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Mar 30, 2009, 10:49:56 AM3/30/09
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I checked in BSI Flora of Maharashtra.
Your picture suggests that the corolla is more than 15 cm long(Guess........)so it can not be D. stramonium.
If corolla is 15-27 cm long..................
            a)Capsule without spines...................D.suaveolens.
            b)Capsule spiny :..............................D. metel (Calyx evenly lobed)
                                                       D.inoxia (Calyx unevenly lobed)
Satish
           

2009/3/25 J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>



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J.M. Garg

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Mar 31, 2009, 8:51:38 PM3/31/09
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Hi, Satish ji,
But these doesn't have pattern on white petals as in my post. Or do they?

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satish phadke

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Apr 1, 2009, 1:07:51 AM4/1/09
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Ok Ok you mean to say that the flowers depicted by you have patterns....brownish spot. So it might be some other flower?
First of all I think it is Datura only. The patterns may be due environmental factors  or some infestation. If it is Datura then only one can apply the key from flora.
Satish
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JM Garg

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Sep 17, 2022, 1:10:48 PMSep 17
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I think Brugmansia × candida Pers. as per keys and details at Brugmansia

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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Sep 17, 2022, 1:18:09 PMSep 17
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Resembles Datura inoxia,
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 17, 2022, 1:20:13 PMSep 17
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Calyx is different.



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J.M. Garg

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Sep 17, 2022, 1:20:32 PMSep 17
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Calyx is different.

On Sat, 17 Sept 2022 at 22:48, Paradesi Anjaneyulu <paradesia...@gmail.com> wrote:


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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Sep 17, 2022, 1:28:12 PMSep 17
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Petals are very long beaks and most flowers hanging in Brugmansia,
Petals with short beaks and flowers almost upwards in Datura.

J.M. Garg

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Sep 17, 2022, 1:34:12 PMSep 17
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Flowers appear to be hanging as can be seen from 2nd and 3rd images, with hanging buds (where flowers are not seen).
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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Sep 17, 2022, 1:38:24 PMSep 17
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What about petals Garg Ji, Observe here attaching B candida photo.
 
1200px-Brugmansia_candida_flowers.jpg

Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Sep 17, 2022, 1:41:04 PMSep 17
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If you're still with Brugmansia,
I will spend some more time on this description level.

J.M. Garg

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Sep 17, 2022, 1:44:13 PMSep 17
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I think the calyx is most crucial here, as petals are not in its prime. 
I am still with Brugmansia × candida Pers., due to calyx shape. 
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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Sep 17, 2022, 2:06:51 PMSep 17
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