Etymology of the genus name Grona

Dinesh Valke

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Jun 26, 2022, 2:17:14 AM6/26/22

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Dear friends, please help me know the etymology of the genus name Grona.

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Dinesh

Dinesh Valke

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Jun 26, 2022, 2:29:10 AM6/26/22

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From Dave's Botanary, perhaps etymology of Gronophyllum helps. Greek grono means cave; but I am not confident whether Grona is related to grono !!

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Jul 1, 2022, 6:39:58 AM7/1/22

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Jul 6, 2022, 2:26:55 AM7/6/22

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I think the origin of Grona is from "grön". Something to do with "green" colour of being fresh and leafy. But I need to know the morphological features of this genus to understand.

Under its original description it doesnt talk about the colour.

This is just a guess work.

There is a book, Plant names and their meanings.

Pankaj

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Perhaps this may help

grona‎ (Polish): meaning, synonyms, pronunciation - WordSense Dictionary

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On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 11:53 AM Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think the origin of Grona is from "grön". Something to do with "green" colour of being fresh and leafy. But I need to know the morphological features of this genus to understand.
Under its original description it doesnt talk about the colour.
This is just a guess work.
There is a book, Plant names and their meanings.
Pankaj

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Jul 6, 2022, 3:09:40 AM7/6/22

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I tend to agree with Gurcharan sir's Polish origin.

But to add, just before Grona, Loureiro described another genus Indigofera, which is certainly based on colour.

Pankaj

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Perhaps this may help
grona‎ (Polish): meaning, synonyms, pronunciation - WordSense Dictionary

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 11:53 AM Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think the origin of Grona is from "grön". Something to do with "green" colour of being fresh and leafy. But I need to know the morphological features of this genus to understand.
Under its original description it doesnt talk about the colour.
This is just a guess work.
There is a book, Plant names and their meanings.
Pankaj

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Clusters seems to be suggested by this also

GRONA - Translation in English - bab.la

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 12:17 PM Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Perhaps this may help
grona‎ (Polish): meaning, synonyms, pronunciation - WordSense Dictionary

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 11:53 AM Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think the origin of Grona is from "grön". Something to do with "green" colour of being fresh and leafy. But I need to know the morphological features of this genus to understand.
Under its original description it doesnt talk about the colour.
This is just a guess work.
There is a book, Plant names and their meanings.
Pankaj

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Jul 6, 2022, 6:20:43 AM7/6/22

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Dineshji, epithet is based on the Greek for eroded or grooved leaf, referring to the praemorse leaflet tips,; ref etymology of palms

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On etymology of palms, I also found this:

green (v.)

Old English grenian "to become green, flourish" (see green (adj.)). Compare Dutch groenen, German grünen, Old Norse grona. Meaning "to make green" is 1560s. Related: Greened; greening.

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There is a book called, Dictionary of Plant names and their meanings. If someone has access to it, then t will be helpful.

Pankaj

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Jul 6, 2022, 7:08:27 AM7/6/22

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Many thanks Garg ji for resurfacing the query.

Thanks very much - Pankaj, Gurcharan ji and Lalithamba ji for the possible meanings / etymology.

I will wait for some more time until we all zero in on the same meaning.

Thanks Pankaj for pointing to the book - Plant names and their meaning. If someone has access to that book, they will be able to help with the meaning.

Regards.

Dinesh

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Jul 16, 2022, 5:44:45 AM7/16/22

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Hi, Dinesh ji,

Could you finalise it?

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Dinesh Valke

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Jul 16, 2022, 6:26:47 AM7/16/22

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Thanks Garg ji, for the follow up. Many thanks - Gurcharan ji, Pankaj, Lalithamba ji.

I am not able to finalize the exact meaning. We have multiple meanings in this thread. I was expecting it to be found in protologue of the genus Grona, or of any Grona spp., as is normally found.