Etymology of the genus name Grona

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Dinesh Valke

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Jun 26, 2022, 2:17:14 AMJun 26
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Dear friends, please help me know the etymology of the genus name Grona.
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Dinesh

Dinesh Valke

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Jun 26, 2022, 2:29:10 AMJun 26
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From Dave's Botanary, perhaps etymology of Gronophyllum helps. Greek grono means cave; but I am not confident whether Grona is related to grono !!
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Jul 6, 2022, 2:26:55 AMJul 6
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Thanks, Pankaj ji

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I think the origin of Grona is from "grön". Something to do with "green" colour of being fresh and leafy. But I need to know the morphological features of this genus to understand.
Under its original description it doesnt talk about the colour.
This is just a guess work.
There is a book, Plant names and their meanings.
Pankaj


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Perhaps this may help
grona‎ (Polish): meaning, synonyms, pronunciation - WordSense Dictionary




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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
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On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 11:53 AM Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the origin of Grona is from "grön". Something to do with "green" colour of being fresh and leafy. But I need to know the morphological features of this genus to understand.
Under its original description it doesnt talk about the colour.
This is just a guess work.
There is a book, Plant names and their meanings.
Pankaj


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Jul 6, 2022, 3:09:40 AMJul 6
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I tend to agree with Gurcharan sir's Polish origin. 
But to add, just before Grona, Loureiro described another genus Indigofera, which is certainly based on colour.
Pankaj

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Perhaps this may help
grona‎ (Polish): meaning, synonyms, pronunciation - WordSense Dictionary




Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.


On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 11:53 AM Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the origin of Grona is from "grön". Something to do with "green" colour of being fresh and leafy. But I need to know the morphological features of this genus to understand.
Under its original description it doesnt talk about the colour.
This is just a guess work.
There is a book, Plant names and their meanings.
Pankaj


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Clusters seems to be suggested by this also






Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 12:17 PM Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:
Perhaps this may help
grona‎ (Polish): meaning, synonyms, pronunciation - WordSense Dictionary




Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.


On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 11:53 AM Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the origin of Grona is from "grön". Something to do with "green" colour of being fresh and leafy. But I need to know the morphological features of this genus to understand.
Under its original description it doesnt talk about the colour.
This is just a guess work.
There is a book, Plant names and their meanings.
Pankaj


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Dineshji, epithet is based on the Greek for eroded or grooved leaf, referring to the praemorse leaflet tips,; ref etymology of palms

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On etymology of palms, I also found this:

green (v.)

Old English grenian "to become green, flourish" (see green (adj.)). Compare Dutch groenen, German grünen, Old Norse grona. Meaning "to make green" is 1560s. Related: Greenedgreening.


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There is a book called, Dictionary of Plant names and their meanings. If someone has access to it, then t will be helpful.
Pankaj

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Dinesh Valke

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Jul 6, 2022, 7:08:27 AMJul 6
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Many thanks Garg ji for resurfacing the query.
Thanks very much - Pankaj, Gurcharan ji and Lalithamba ji for the possible meanings / etymology.
I will wait for some more time until we all zero in on the same meaning.
Thanks Pankaj for pointing to the book - Plant names and their meaning. If someone has access to that book, they will be able to help with the meaning.

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Dinesh

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Hi, Dinesh ji,
Could you finalise it?
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Dinesh Valke

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Jul 16, 2022, 6:26:47 AMJul 16
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Thanks Garg ji, for the follow up. Many thanks - Gurcharan ji, Pankaj, Lalithamba ji.

I am not able to finalize the exact meaning. We have multiple meanings in this thread. I was expecting it to be found in protologue of the genus Grona, or of any Grona spp., as is normally found.

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Dinesh


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