Enneapogon persicus FOR VALIDATION :: Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park

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Dinesh Valke

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Nov 4, 2018, 1:28:00 PM11/4/18
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... gully trail, Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park
Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park  Jodhpur
Date: October 24, 2018 ... Altitude: about 300 m (980 feet) asl

¿ Enneapogon persicus ?  
Dear friends,
I am aware that ID of grass cannot be attempted with photos alone; yet I am posting few photos with the hope that it can be identified at least to genus level, based on distribution and general appearance. The posted grass was growing in some patches of the park.
¿ Enneapogon persicus ?

¿ Enneapogon persicus ?

¿ Enneapogon persicus ?

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Dinesh

Ushadi Micromini

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Nov 4, 2018, 8:11:43 PM11/4/18
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love the third picture esp
although i really cant help nail down the id


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Dinesh Valke

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Nov 5, 2018, 11:45:06 AM11/5/18
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Thanks Usha di.
And I am depending solely on the third picture - that it helps in recognizing the grass rather than identifying !
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 8, 2018, 8:08:58 AM11/8/18
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Thanks, Dinesh ji 

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Thanks, Manoj ji

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Enneapogon brachystachyus found gregariously in deserts of India and Africa. Presently, it is considered as a synonym of E.desvauxii, which is an American species. However, further study is required to analyse the similarities and differences between the two. Please see the specimen from Bikaner seen by Bor in GBCIP - (D.Gupta s.n., Bikanir (I don't know where it is kept)). Enneapogon persicus is found in higher elevations above 1000m in dry arid slopes. 

Ushadi Micromini

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Jan 30, 2019, 9:17:56 AM1/30/19
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learnt something new
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Dinesh Valke

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Jan 30, 2019, 10:31:48 AM1/30/19
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Thanks Ushadi.

Thanks very much Garg ji for follow-up on query, and many many thanks to Manoj ji for the ID and clarification.

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Dinesh

Sharmila Punde

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Jan 30, 2019, 1:19:42 PM1/30/19
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Dear Dinesh Ji, Usha Ji, Garg Ji,
I had saved 'Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park' threads in imp mails. Unfortunately lost many of them, and few middle discussion including this thread while covering mail box full issue.
Is there any way to get all the post from 'Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park'. I did not have backup as well.
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Dinesh Valke

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Jan 30, 2019, 10:10:44 PM1/30/19
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Dear Sharmila ji,
 
Please visit eFI group, where all the posts are always available.

Put your search words in the search box.
The search results should contain all the posts you intend to find.

For example, click on this link to find all the posts with the search words: Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park

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Dinesh

Sharmila Punde

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Feb 2, 2019, 5:24:31 AM2/2/19
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Thanks you very much Dinesh Ji! 🙏
Could recover all the lost data.
thanks again
Sharmila

J.M. Garg

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Jul 24, 2020, 10:49:56 AM7/24/20
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Thanks, Gosavi ji

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Yes it is seems to be  Enneapogon
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Dinesh Valke

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Jul 24, 2020, 12:52:06 PM7/24/20
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Thanks very much Garg ji, and thank you Gosavi ji for validating the genus.
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Dinesh

Dinesh Valke

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Dec 8, 2021, 11:46:50 PM12/8/21
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At iNaturalist, Patrick Alexander is sure that the ID of posted plant is not Enneapogon desvauxii P.Beauv. ... he suggests Enneapogon cenchroides (Licht.) C.E.Hubb.
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 9, 2021, 3:52:58 AM12/9/21
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At iNaturalist, Patrick Alexander is sure that the ID of posted plant is not Enneapogon desvauxii P.Beauv. ... he suggests Enneapogon cenchroides (Licht.) C.E.Hubb.
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 12, 2021, 6:18:30 AM12/12/21
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Thanks a lot, Manoj ji


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I too agree that E.brachystachyus should not be considered synonymous to E.desvauxii. 
E.cenchroides has a denser inflorescence with longer glumes and awns. Also four awns are shorter than the other five awns, whereas E.brachystachys has equal awns and shorter glumes. (Dissection photos with scale may confirm)

Dinesh Valke

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Dec 12, 2021, 6:59:55 AM12/12/21
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Thanks very much Garg ji and Manoj ji.
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