Id of a herb from Bilaspur

Bala Subramaniam

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Apr 17, 2022, 12:07:28 AM4/17/22

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Dear All,

Request for id of a carpet forming herb from Bilaspur. Photographed in April 2022.

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Dr. B. Subramaniam

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Bala Subramaniam

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Apr 17, 2022, 12:08:39 AM4/17/22

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Another image of the plant.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 17, 2022, 9:36:49 AM4/17/22

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Please check Acanthaceae !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 17, 2022, 9:44:16 AM4/17/22

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Or Polygonaceae?

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Bala Subramaniam

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Apr 17, 2022, 10:01:38 AM4/17/22

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Thanks Saroj ji and Garg ji.

Warm regards,

Dr. B. Subramaniam

J.M. Garg

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Apr 21, 2022, 3:19:32 AM4/21/22

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This may be some Polygonum species as per earlier discussions at Polygonum species?- Ambazari lake, Nagpur, Maharashtra

May be Ritesh ji takes a fresh look or suggest something else.

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Apr 21, 2022, 3:19:55 AM4/21/22

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This may be some Polygonum species as per earlier discussions at Polygonum species?- Ambazari lake, Nagpur, Maharashtra

May be Ritesh ji takes a fresh look or suggest something else.

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Apr 21, 2022, 5:59:33 AM4/21/22

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Thanks, Lalithamba ji

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to me it looks like Polygonum sps

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Bala Subramaniam

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Apr 21, 2022, 7:09:17 AM4/21/22

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Thanks a lot Garg ji and Lalithamba ji.

Warm regards,

Dr. B. Subramaniam

J.M. Garg

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Apr 22, 2022, 2:00:23 AM4/22/22

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This is Rotala L. since there are no detailed morphological literature with me of the species this should be Rotala illecebroides Koehne most common in Nagpur.

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Bala Subramaniam

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Apr 22, 2022, 4:08:00 AM4/22/22

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Thank you very much Garg ji for identifying the plant. It was really a puzzle. Thanks again.

Warm regards,

Dr. B. Subramaniam

Bala Subramaniam

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Apr 23, 2022, 4:25:02 AM4/23/22

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Garg ji,

I have been able to get clearer close up image of the plant which may perhaps help in confirming the identity.

Warm regards,

Dr. B. Subramaniam

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 23, 2022, 4:36:55 AM4/23/22

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Thanks, Bala ji

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Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 23, 2022, 6:51:10 AM4/23/22

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Polygonum plebeium R. Br.

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Saroj Kasaju

Bala Subramaniam

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Apr 23, 2022, 9:08:17 AM4/23/22

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Thanks a lot Saroj ji and Garg ji.

Warm regards,

Dr. B. Subramaniam

Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 23, 2022, 9:22:48 AM4/23/22

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OK Bala Ji !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Apr 23, 2022, 10:36:51 AM4/23/22

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No

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Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 23, 2022, 12:32:23 PM4/23/22

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Polygonum paronychioides C.A.Mey. ??

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Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Apr 23, 2022, 12:34:30 PM4/23/22

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No.

I have to check the following suggestion:

This is Rotala L. since there are no detailed morphological literature with me of the species this should be Rotala illecebroides Koehne most common in Nagpur.
Kind regards,
Varun

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Bala Subramaniam

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Apr 23, 2022, 12:44:05 PM4/23/22

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Thank you very much Saroj ji, Varun ji and Garg ji.

Warm regards

Dr. B. Subramaniam

J.M. Garg

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Apr 29, 2022, 3:06:12 AM4/29/22

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

To me looks different from Rotala illecebroides as per POWO specimen and GBIF Specimens- one
I tried checking all the species of Rotala listed in Flora of Peninsular India, but could not go close to the posted plant.

Still remains a mystery plant.

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Apr 29, 2022, 3:06:36 AM4/29/22

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Apr 29, 2022, 12:21:14 PM4/29/22

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Thanks a lot, Thomas ji

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It is Rotala indica(Wild.)Koehne

Thomas Mathew

radha veach

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May 11, 2022, 9:09:34 AM5/11/22

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These flowers are pentamerous. Rotala indica has 4 petals.

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Radha

J.M. Garg

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May 14, 2022, 3:53:00 AM5/14/22

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Thanks, Thomas ji

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Then please check it in the group Rotala densiflora, Rotala rosea group but the habit not seemingly match with that group. Both of these species are not the condensed growth as that seen in the photographs. First of all check whether it belongs to family Lythraceae and the genus Rotala. Because certain other genus that mimic Rotala also seen in marshy places like Rotula aquatica. If still it belongs to Rotala it may be a new species.

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radha veach

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May 14, 2022, 10:44:07 PM5/14/22

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The flowers are not consistent with Lythraceae.

Please see the many morphological variations of Polygonum plebeium in eflora. One earlier post stands out as being very similar to this one:

https://efloraofindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/13%20July%202015%20182742%20GMT%200530.jpg

https://efloraofindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/20150227_085452-1.jpg

I think this plant is Polygonum plebeium as Saroj ji has suggested.

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Radha

J.M. Garg

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May 15, 2022, 12:43:10 AM5/15/22

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Thanks, Radha ji.
But Ritesh ji, who is an Expert on Polygonaceae, do not think so.

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radha veach

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May 16, 2022, 12:25:33 PM5/16/22

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Garg ji, I could not find comments from Dr Ritesh in this post.

I wonder if the additional close up photo sent by Dr Subramaniam has been seen by all members as it doesn't appear at the beginning.

Sending a link:

https://08511630493324166816.googlegroups.com/attach/112c1f448059f/20220423_104224.jpg?part=0.1&view=1&vt=ANaJVrHakLB0tRawn_cYryX1geCO8Np5F6_aNy9bxuC1gzTAgw-xhzK_tN7PtGP8l7oHCEw8r3VTyNB8u79WbXeBR3Na7sdHcUbwHskkWS6Mh0ZBx7n17wQ

J.M. Garg

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May 20, 2022, 6:29:36 AM5/20/22

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Thanks, Radha ji.

To me also it appears close to images at Polygonum plebeium, which is a very variable species.

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Saroj Kasaju

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May 20, 2022, 6:55:56 AM5/20/22

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Finally! Thank you Radha ji and Mr. Garg for validating my guess.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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