Names of Plants in India :: Acanthus ilicifolius

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Dinesh Valke

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Acanthus ilicifolius

Acanthus ilicifolius 

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commonly known as: holly-leaved acanthus, holly mangrove, sea holly  Bengali: hargoza  Hindi: हड़कत harkata Kannada: ಹೊಳೆಸುಳ್ಳಿ holesulli  Konkani: मारांडो maramdo  Malayalam: ചക്കരമുള്ള് chakkaramullii  Marathi: मारंडी marandi, वागाटी vagati  Sanskrit: हरीकुसा harikusa  Tamil: கழுதைமுள்ளி kalutaimulli  Telugu: ఆలస్యకంప alasyakampa  Urdu: هڙکت harkata


botanical names: current - Acanthus ilicifolius • synonymsAcanthus doloariu, Dilivaria ilicifolia



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Dinesh Valke

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Mar 24, 2011, 3:07:55 PM3/24/11
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Dear friends,

The contents in the above post shows a typical page of my site.
The site is very closely associated to our group and Flowers of India site and draws inspiration from both of them.

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The site makes an attempt to gather and share common names of the plants found in our country. My favourite say: The common names are just as important as the scientific names. Strangely -- 1) some of the names are not common at all, and we may find them not known to us -- 2) some of the common plants have no name at all !!

Started the first page somewhere in Dec 2010, and to date have finished compiling just about 30 species of Acanthaceae.
Building of the site is going to be a slow perennial process. Present activity is populating the names of native plants.

The main focus of the site is validating the names that are put there, therefore the members of this group are earnestly requested to point out errors in the common names listed for the species. The regional names put in native script require stricter attention in terms of incorrect spelling.

Members are also requested to provide any names that are not found listed for the species.

Comments which help know the derivation of the common names are more than welcome.

As such the site is not botanically inclined; comment(s) earnestly sought from members with scientific background for maintaining the accuracy of species' current (accepted) name and the synonym(s) listed.

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As and when time permits, I would be posting every species page in this group as a post to solicit validation of names from members of our group.
Needless to say, critical comments are more than welcome to make the site easier to use.

Many thanks and regards.
Dinesh

Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Mar 24, 2011, 3:39:43 PM3/24/11
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Thats going to be nice and informative. I will have a proper look
after my deadline.
There is no need to write CURRENT before names.
Why?
Because there is no current and previous name, there is just one name
to a plant. When you say basionym then it means it is the name on
which other name is based.
Synonyms could be Synonyms and Basionyms. You may point on that.
You can also say Ilex leaved Acanthus as the name of the plant itself
suggests. Holly is the common name for Ilex (ilex)....
Just a few thought...
Regards
Pankaj

Vijayasankar

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Mar 24, 2011, 7:58:58 PM3/24/11
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It looks good, Dinesh ji.
I strongly suggest you to include author citation for all botanical names, incl. accepted names, basionyms, and synonyms. The (author) names should be in abbreviated form following Brummitt & Powell's book "Authors of Plant Names" or the related database. I earlier suggested the same for FOI site as well.

pl also include family name for all taxa.

at later stage, you may also like to provide the occurrence and distribution, brief description (not a technical one), local uses etc. for the benefit of users :)

Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

Dinesh Valke

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Mar 25, 2011, 1:54:40 AM3/25/11
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Vijayasankar ji, many thanks for the pointer towards author citation ... BUT am a little nervous about getting into it (ideally need not, with so many friends around me with clear knowledge).
Yet would rather take someone's help in this regard who will provide me with this data for every species that I post here.
Hopefully some friend(s) will come forward.

Pankaj. many thanks for setting right the thoughts about "current" name ... will soon incorporate it into my notes along with stress on synonyms (and basionym).
And thanks too for the ilex name ... will add it.

Regards.
Dinesh

Dinesh Valke

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Mar 25, 2011, 6:13:22 AM3/25/11
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Vijayasankar ji ... forgot to respond to your other points.

About putting family names: had given a thought to it prior to settling at species level.
Cross-linking to each entlty becomes more and more cumbersome, especially when a change has to be effected.
Moving a whole lot of genera from one family into another will become more than a tough job.

"Names of Plants in India" is concentrated on getting to common names of a plant (read: particular species) as well as knowing different plants sharing a name,
Thus names and species are cross-indexed.

Occurrence, distribution, brief description, importance and uses are not in the scope of this site.
BUT it would be a great thing to happen if any person(s) keen about any of the subject(s) would go ahead to make sub-site(s).
Will be glad to give any starting assistance.

Later, at a macro-level all such information can be collated to form a detailed page for each species.

Vijayasankar

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Mar 25, 2011, 10:55:46 AM3/25/11
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Thanks Dinesh ji, for the response.

Everything depend on the aim of the site. If it is intended mainly for local users to know more about the plant, then the plant should be introduced by its local / common name. Botanical name becomes secondary and it is an additional information.
If it is in the line of eflora, and for international reference, then it should be in taxonomically acceptable form (with full author citation, family names, references, etc.).
You know the taxonomic databases to be referred for accepted name and author citation, GRIN, GBIF, IPNI to name a few. There is no authentic plant database which doesn't provide author citation for the botanical names, u know that. And verifying the already prepared list for correctness will not be a problem for any botanist here, incl me.

I understand all the data are stored in a database and viewed in the species page. Therefore making changes in selected fields in the database (it automatically should reflect in the species page) shouldn't be a problem i hope. Pl correct me if i am wrong.

Its not that only family names will change, even botanical names and/or their status may change anytime. (wonder how dynamic the taxonomy is !?). So any database needs regular update to stay up-to-date.
 
Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi



Dinesh Valke

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Mar 26, 2011, 12:58:39 AM3/26/11
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Vijayasankar ji, many thanks for validating names of Justicia adhatoda.

Entry for இரத்தபித்தம் iratta-pittam shows Malabar Nut at  http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.13:1:3272.tamillex
It does also show it as a name for the disease Hemorrhage.
Probably the word is out of vogue as meaning for Justicia adhatoda.

On similar lines will remove other said names for Justicia adhatoda, since they must have lost their association with the plant in modern times.

Accordingly will correct entries for Barleria prionitis.

Many thanks once again for validating the Tamil names.

Regards.
Dinesh








On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Vijayasankar <vijay.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
OK Dinesh ji. I'll go through the list. I think it needs some corrections. For e.g. Justicia adhatoda is popularly known as 'adhatodai' ஆடாதோடை only.
The name "இரத்தபித்தம் iratta-pittam" perhaps refers to a disease (Hemorrhage) and not this plant. Similarly the Tamil name 'காட்டுமுருங்கை kāṭṭu-muruṅkai' refers to Moringa concanensis, which is appropriate. We need not include this name for J. adhatoda, even if it was mentioned in some old literature. Doing so will lead to confusion only. The other names given here for J. adhatoda are also not in current use and must be removed. The name 'Pavatta' mainly refers to Pavetta indica rather than J. adhatoda.

Barleria prionitis is better known as ªêñ¢º÷¢÷¤ 'Semmulli', and the name 'Kutan' must be a prehistoric one. (pl. check the link to ENVIS-FRLHT doesn't work here, but i can open the site separately)

I don't think we should include all names used for plants in old Tamil literature. We can't afford it. For e.g. Plumbago zeylanica has 128 Tamil names. I am sure Neem has at least 150 names, and so several other plants. Mr. Panchavarnam (i think he recently joined our group) has done lots of research on this subject and he has compiled all these information for several plants with an aim of doing it for all plants (of India i guess). So, providing only popular names, which are in current usage, will be a good idea.

Of course, it is my personal view only.

 
Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi



On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Many thanks Vijayasankar ji for the clarifications.

Here is the list of Tamil names that have got populated in the site.
https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil

If you find any discrepancies OR would like to comment on any other aspect please do so by posting it to our group.
It will help people gain interest in the site's contents.

Regards.
Dinesh.


On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Vijayasankar <vijay.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Dinesh ji, for the clarification. These are my responses for your queries:

1. Use of two names L. and Linn. is accepted only for Linnaeus (may be due to the long usage of Linn.). So its OK if you use either of these. But nowadays only L. is used. Using Linn. in not a mistake.
2. GRIN doesn't provide all synonyms. There may be too many (remember recent posts by Dr.Pankaj listing large number of synonyms for one taxon) synonyms, and its not necessary to include all. These are included generally only by revisioners. Revd. Hb. to Flora of Ceylon provides detailed note on synonyms. We generally use only popular names and not all synonyms.
3. IPNI just lists all botanical names and doesn't distinguish accepted and synonyms.
4. GBIF takes records from IPNI, so we need to cross check for author citation if we refer this facility.
5. In case of authority for the name Acanthus ilicifolius, both Loureiro (Lour.) and Linnaeus (L.) have used the same name for describing the species. May be Lour. was unaware of L.'s publication. Since L. published it (in 1753) before the publication of Lour. (in 1790), the Principles of Priority Rule of ICBN applies here. The earliest published name is accepted and the latter in this case is a latter homonym which is invalid.

Experts in the group may like to throw more light on this.

So, while providing authority we generally refer more than one sources, and we go into details if we find discrepancies. After all our wish is to ensure correctness rather than multiplying mistakes made in some websites.

BTW, please send me the list of Tamil names for verification. I would love to go through that.
 
Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi



On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Vijayasankar ji,

The intention of the site is to gather the common names of plants in India and validate them.
The plant is introduced by its Latin name because it is unique and not shared.
When in case there are instances of a Latin name with more than one author, their authors' names will follow them for sake of differentiation.

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At NPGS / GRIN ... http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?1079
... put as Acanthus ilicifolius L. ... no synonyms put at present.

Not able to understand the format at IPNI ... http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=84648-3

GBIF at http://data.gbif.org/species/14807706/ has Acanthus ilicifolius Lour. ... was not able to know where the synonyms are put

At some other places on WWW
1) Acanthus ilicifolius Linn. Synonyms: Acanthus doloariu Blanco., Acanthus ebracteatus val., Acanthus volubilis Wall., Dilivaria ilicifolia Nees. (Juss )
2) Acanthus ilicifolius L. Synonym: Acanthus volubilis Wallich.


Have stayed far away from gathering data related to botanical name citations because of differing abbreviations (implying different authors AND / OR different syntax).

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The data is not stored in database format.

In the given circumstances, change in status of botanical name is the least that can be afforded (time-wise and efforts-wise).

The site and its contents at present are viewable only to our group ... as such is matter for discussing / validating the common names ... not to be considered as database.

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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:43:22 +0530
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Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:65632] Re: Names of Plants in India :: Acanthus ilicifolius

Dinesh Valke

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a-KANTH-us -- Greek: ákantha (thorn); also spine or spike ... Dave's Botanary
il-liss-ee-FOH-lee-us -- having leaves like a holly ... Dave's Botanary

commonly known as: holly-leaved acanthus, holly-leaved bear's breech, holly mangrove, sea holly • Bengali: হাড়গোজা hargoza, কটকি kataki, নীল টেংরাকাঁটা nila tenrakanta • Gujarati: હરગોજા hargoja, કાંટાળીયો kantaliyo Hindi: हड़कत harkata • Kannada: ಹೊಳೆ ಚುಳ್ಳಿ hole chulli, ಕಂಡ್ಲಾ ಚುಳ್ಳಿ kaandla chulli • Konkani: मारांडो maramdo • Malayalam: ചുള്ളി chulli, ചുള്ളിക്കണ്ടൽ chullikkantal, പയിങ്ങാച്ചുള്ളി payingngaachchulli • Marathi: मारांडी marandi, निवगूर nivagur, वागाटी vagati • Odia: ହାକୁଚ କଣ୍ଟା hakucha kanta, ହାଡ଼କାଠ harda katha, ହାଡ଼କଞ୍ଚି hardakanchi • Sanskrit: हरीकुसा harikusa • Tamil: ஆற்றுமுள்ளி arru-mulli, கழுதைமுள்ளி kalutai-mulli, கோழிமுள்ளி koli-mulli, உப்புக்கரிநீர்முள்ளி uppu-k-kari-nir-mulli • Telugu: అలస్యకంప alasyakampa, అలిసి alisi, ఏటిచిల్ల etichilla, తూడిచిల్ల thude chulli • Tulu: ತುದೆಚುಳ್ಳಿ tudechulli • Urdu: هڙکت harkata


botanical names: Acanthus ilicifolius L. ... synonyms: Acanthus doloarin Blanco • Dilivaria ilicifolia (L.) Juss. ... status at The Plants List (2013). Version 1.1.


Bibliography / etymology


~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~
holly-leaved acanthus
holly-leaved bear's breech
holly mangrove
sea holly

~~~~~ BENGALI ~~~~~
হরগজা haragoza
  • Many thanks to Hasan Mehedi for this name in his post at facebook
  • Common Indian Wild Flowers, a book by Isaac Kehimkar
কটকি kataki
  • Many thanks to Hasan Mehedi for this name in his post at facebook
নীল টেংরাকাঁটা nila tenrakanta
  • Many thanks to Hasan Mehedi for this name in his post at facebook

~~~~~ GUJARATI ~~~~~
હરગોજા hargoja
કાંટાળીયો kantaliyo

~~~~~ HINDI ~~~~~
हड़कत harkata

~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~
ಹೊಳೆ ಚುಳ್ಳಿ hole chulli
ಕಂಡ್ಲಾ ಚುಳ್ಳಿ kaandla chulli

~~~~~ KONKANI ~~~~~
मारांडो maramdo

~~~~~ MALAYALAM ~~~~~
ചുള്ളി chulli
  • Many thanks to VC Balakrishnan and Vinaya Raj V R for help with this name ... facebook
ചുള്ളിക്കണ്ടൽ chullikkantal
  • Many thanks to VC Balakrishnan and Vinaya Raj V R for help with this name ... facebook
പയിങ്ങാച്ചുള്ളി payingngaachchulli
  • Many thanks to VC Balakrishnan and Vinaya Raj V R for help with this name ... facebook

~~~~~ MARATHI ~~~~~
मारांडी marandi
निवगूर nivagur
वागाटी vagati

~~~~~ ODIA ~~~~~
ହାକୁଚ କଣ୍ଟା hakucha kanta
ହାଡ଼କାଠ harda katha
ହାଡ଼କଞ୍ଚି hardakanchi

~~~~~ SANSKRIT ~~~~~
हरीकुसा harikusa

~~~~~ TAMIL ~~~~~
ஆற்றுமுள்ளி arru-mulli
  • for holly-leaved bear's breech ... Tamil lexicon [Madras], University of Madras
கழுதைமுள்ளி kalutai-mulli
  • Tamil lexicon [Madras], University of Madras
  • or simply முள்ளி mulli ... for holly-leaved bear's breech ... Tamil lexicon [Madras], University of Madras
கோழிமுள்ளி koli-mulli
  • for holly-leaved bear's breech ... Tamil lexicon [Madras], University of Madras
உப்புக்கரிநீர்முள்ளி uppu-k-kari-nir-mulli
  • for holly-leaved bear's breech ... Tamil lexicon [Madras], University of Madras

~~~~~ TELUGU ~~~~~
అలస్యకంప alasyakampa
అలిసి alisi
ఏటిచిల్ల etichilla
తూడిచిల్ల thude chulli

~~~~~ TULU ~~~~~
ತುದೆಚುಳ್ಳಿ tudechulli

~~~~~ URDU ~~~~~
هڙکت harkata

~~~~~ x ~~~~~



Dinesh Valke

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Nov 30, 2021, 5:11:30 AM11/30/21
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Gujarati name added ...


Acanthus ilicifolius L.

Acanthus ilicifolius L.

a-KANTH-us -- Greek: ákantha (thorn); also spine or spike ... Dave's Botanary
il-liss-ee-FOH-lee-us -- having leaves like a holly ... Dave's Botanary

commonly known as: holly-leaved acanthus, holly-leaved bear's breech, holly mangrove, sea holly • Bengali: হাড়গোজা hargoza, কটকি kataki, নীল টেংরাকাঁটা nila tenrakanta • Gujarati: હરગોજા hargoja, કાંટાળીયો kantaliyo, મરાન્ડી marandi • Hindi: हड़कत harkata • Kannada: ಹೊಳೆ ಚುಳ್ಳಿ hole chulli, ಕಂಡ್ಲಾ ಚುಳ್ಳಿ kaandla chulli • Konkani: मारांडो maramdo • Malayalam: ചുള്ളി chulli, ചുള്ളിക്കണ്ടൽ chullikkantal, പയിങ്ങാച്ചുള്ളി payingngaachchulli • Marathi: मारांडी marandi, निवगूर nivagur, वागाटी vagati • Odia: ହାକୁଚ କଣ୍ଟା hakucha kanta, ହାଡ଼କାଠ harda katha, ହାଡ଼କଞ୍ଚି hardakanchi • Sanskrit: हरीकुसा harikusa • Tamil: ஆற்றுமுள்ளி arru-mulli, கழுதைமுள்ளி kalutai-mulli, கோழிமுள்ளி koli-mulli, உப்புக்கரிநீர்முள்ளி uppu-k-kari-nir-mulli • Telugu: అలస్యకంప alasyakampa, అలిసి alisi, ఏటిచిల్ల etichilla, తూడిచిల్ల thude chulli • Tulu: ತುದೆಚುಳ್ಳಿ tudechulli • Urdu: هڙکت harkata


botanical names: Acanthus ilicifolius L. ... synonyms: Acanthus doloarin Blanco • Dilivaria ilicifolia (L.) Juss. ... status at The Plants List (2013). Version 1.1.
Bibliography / etymology
~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~
holly-leaved acanthus
holly-leaved bear's breech
holly mangrove
sea holly
~~~~~ BENGALI ~~~~~
হরগজা haragoza
  • Many thanks to Hasan Mehedi for this name in his post at facebook
  • Common Indian Wild Flowers, a book by Isaac Kehimkar
কটকি kataki
  • Many thanks to Hasan Mehedi for this name in his post at facebook
নীল টেংরাকাঁটা nila tenrakanta
  • Many thanks to Hasan Mehedi for this name in his post at facebook
~~~~~ GUJARATI ~~~~~
હરગોજા hargoja
  • or હરગોઝા hargoja ... ગુજરાતી ભાષાનો સર્વપ્રથમ વિશ્વકોશ - મૅન્ગ્રોવ
કાંટાળીયો kantaliyo
મરાન્ડી marandi

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Gurcharan Singh

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Truly great contribution Dinesh ji.

Dinesh Valke

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Thank you very much, Gurcharan ji !!
Regards.
Dinesh

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