Curcuma pseudomontana

[J.M. Garg]

On 30/8/09 in Narsapur forest in Medak district near Hyderabad, A.P.

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[Dr Gurcharan Singh]

Garg ji

A very good series of photographs

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[Swagat]

Dear all,

 

'Curcuma pseudomontana' is called 'Ranhalad' 'रानहळद' in Marathi.

 

Regards,

 

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2009/10/5 Dr Gurcharan Singh <sin...@sify.com>

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[Dinesh Valke]

... commonly known as: wild turmeric • Malayalam: കാട് മഞ്ഞള്‍ kattu manjal • Marathi: रानहळद raan halad, शिंदळवान shindalavana or शिंदळवानी shindalavani • Tamil: காடு மஞ்சள் kattu manjal • Telugu: అడవి పసుపు adavi pasupu

 

Regards.

[Dr. Pankaj Kumar]

Dear Mr. Garg
Just for information that this is not Curcuma pseudomontana. I had
doubts so I took your pic for clarification.
This is called

"Curcuma reclinata Roxb., Asiat. Res. 11: 342 (1810)."
Syn: Curcuma sulcata Haines, Bull. Misc. Inform. Kew 1923: 119 (1923).

Regards
Pankaj

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Pankaj ji.

I also request others to check their pictures of Curcuma pseudomontana & correct accordingly.

 

But I am not finding any details on net about it.

Further, it's not appearing in Forest Flora of A.P. as per
http://forest.ap.nic.in/Forest%20Flora%20of%20Andhra%20Pradesh/index.htm

 

I think the post by Pranad ji, Shubhada ji & Dinesh ji's picture in FOI may also relate to Curcuma reclinata Roxb.

http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/9e60f36cb8eff317

http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Hill%20Turmeric.html

http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/003040b2e9ff4119

 

2009/10/5 Dr. Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com>

[Pankaj Kumar]

Dear Sir,

Its a case of long forgotten species or very often misidentified. I
got this species identified from one of my best friend of Czech origin
who revised the Indian genera of Curcuma. I trust she cant be wrong.
She is now curator of Ginger garden at Singapore Botanic Gardens.
Zinger garden at SING is supposed to be the authority for registration
of Gingers from all over the world. While doing some field works
together with her (around 7 of them), we very often came across
pseudomontana in Jharkhand, Chattishgarh and Uttarakhand so I could
identify that it was somewhat different from what I know.

See Hooker's Flora of British India, Vol V, page 214 - 215 and
Roxburgh's Flora Indica, Vol i: page 35 - 36 for collection record.
These two files were there on my DVD.

Regards
Pankaj

[shubhada nikharge]

Pankaj ji,
thanx a lot for correction. This plant was identified as C. pseudomontana  in my records since 2005.

Garg ji,
thanx for a reminder.
cheers,
shubhada

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
To: Dr. Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com>
Cc: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>; Sabu Mamiyil <msa...@yahoo.in>; Pradnya Shenoy <pradny...@gmail.com>; Swagat <swaga...@gmail.com>; Tabish <tab...@gmail.com>; Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>; shubhada nikharge <shubhada...@yahoo.co.in>; satish pardeshi <satishp...@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 5 October, 2009 10:31:29 PM
Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:20202] Re: Curcuma pseudomontana

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[J.M. Garg]

Here is a reply from Dr. Sabu, authority on Zingiberaceae of India.
"Dear Mr. Garg,
As I have been out of station I could not attend to the mail. The image is that of Curcuma inodora. It is a highly variable species in the colour of bracts, coma, labellum and staminodes .
Regards

Dr.M. Sabu
Secretary, IAAT
Professor, Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673635
India.
Mob: 09447636333"

 

2009/10/5 Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com>

[J.M. Garg]

Further feedback from Satish Pardesi Ji:

"WITH REFERENCE TO THE POST ON Oct 5 2009 IN WHICH 7 PICS OF C.
pesudomontana is posted. to me it is not C. pseudomontana for sure
(the flowers should be pure yellow in that)and also it is not
C.inodora as  the infloresecence is not lateral. i feel it could be C.
decipiens

Regards
Satish Pardeshi"

Here was the earlier reply:

Here is a reply from Dr. Sabu, authority on Zingiberaceae of India.

"Dear Mr. Garg,
As I have been out of station I could not attend to the mail. The image is that of Curcuma inodora. It is a highly variable species in the colour of bracts, coma, labellum and staminodes .
Regards
Dr.M. Sabu
Secretary, IAAT
Professor, Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673635
India.
Mob: 09447636333"

 

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[Neil Soares]

Hi Mr.Garg,   Sending close-up photographs of Cucurma pseudomontana for comparison.                         Regards,                          Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 8/20/10, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[tanay bose]

Nice catch both !!

Tanay

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[J.M. Garg]

Further feedback from Satish Pardesi Ji:
"WITH REFERENCE TO THE POST ON Oct 5 2009 IN WHICH 7 PICS OF C.
pesudomontana is posted. to me it is not C. pseudomontana for sure
(the flowers should be pure yellow in that)and also it is not
C.inodora as  the infloresecence is not lateral. i feel it could be C.
decipiens
Regards
Satish Pardeshi"

Here was the earlier reply:
Here is a reply from Dr. Sabu,

"Dear Mr. Garg,
As I have been out of station I could not attend to the mail. The image is that of Curcuma inodora. It is a highly variable species in the colour of bracts, coma, labellum and staminodes .
Regards
Dr.M. Sabu
Secretary, IAAT
Professor, Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673635
India.
Mob: 09447636333"

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: 5 October 2009 09:04
Subject: Curcuma pseudomontana
To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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[Rashida Atthar]

The images are certainly not of Cucurma pseudomantana. Matches more with Cucurma inodora as per Dr. Almeida's flora. I think Neil's pics too are not of C. pseudomantana,  they seem to be of C. neilgherrensis .

regards,

Rashida.