Physalis Minima is it?

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Rashida Atthar

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Jun 6, 2010, 11:39:49 PM6/6/10
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Posting all the Pics I have of Physalis minima seen at Shahpur, Mah.,  last week of March, '10.  Request validation of ID.

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tanay bose

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Jun 6, 2010, 11:48:51 PM6/6/10
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Physalis minima indeed !! this plant many a times confuse people with its leaf morphology. The leaf margin in this plant can be entire, sinuate, or with a few coarse teeth.. which some times distract the identifier !! But your photo collection is really appreciable and gorgeous !!
Tanay

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Rashida Atthar

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Jun 6, 2010, 11:58:56 PM6/6/10
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Thanks a lot Tanay ji for the validation and appreciation. Yes indeed the leaf variation you have mentioned can be seen particularly around the flower pics.

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Rashida.

tanay bose

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Jun 7, 2010, 12:02:09 AM6/7/10
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Yes indeed the leaf variation is clear in your photos that's why it forced me to mention it !! Anyhow the collection was good
Tanay

Muthu Karthick

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Jun 7, 2010, 1:23:39 AM6/7/10
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Dear all,

The bluish anthers and angled stem refers to Physalis angulata L. species.
Muthu Karthick, N
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Rashida Atthar

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Jun 7, 2010, 11:05:52 AM6/7/10
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Thanks Muthu ji for further inputs. It will take me a while to look at the entire thread and discussions, seems to be a never resolved species!

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Rashida Atthar

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Jun 9, 2010, 10:08:55 AM6/9/10
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Thanks to Tanay ji and Muthu ji for making me study this species and the entire database on this species. It was quite an exercise. After going through the research papers (both) links given by Dr. Vijayasankar ji in earlier posts,  I agree with Muthu ji's  ID that my pics are indeed of Physalis angulata.   Infact, right from the first pictures from 2008 posted  of this species  by Kiran ji, Satish Phadke ji, Suresh ji, Dr. Gurcharan ji, Dinesh ji all have bluish anthers of the flowers and the purple venation on fruits ! In the database we do not have ( correct me if I am wrong) any species with greenish-yellow anthers  indicative of Physalis minima L. So all the species so far which have been ided as Physalis minima L. going by the paper, should be Physalis angulata. This is nothwithstanding  the variations in the size of the petioles, leaf dentations and lenght the of pedicles.  

Now the confusion : Kew database treats Physalis minima L., Physalis angulata and Physalis lagascae as separate species. I am attaching one herbarium specimen of Physalis lagascae and one of Physalis minima L.. There are records for Physalis angulata but no herbarium specimen for download.   

As Dr. Gurcharan ji has mentioned in the earlier thread GRIN considers Physalis lagascae as syn. to Physalis minima L.  Request  feedback and a relook of the database. Thank you.
Physalis lagascae kew.jpg
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 23, 2010, 1:27:20 AM6/23/10
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Kindly refer: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/1f74fa7100de2b15/8613d7429fcab437?lnk=gst&q=Physalis#8613d7429fcab437

The bluish anthers and angled stem refers to Physalis angulata L. species.” Muthu ji.

 

“Thanks to Tanay ji and Muthu ji for making me study this species and the entire database on this species. It was quite an exercise. After going through the research papers (both) links given by Dr. Vijayasankar ji in earlier posts,  I agree with Muthu ji's  ID that my pics are indeed of Physalis angulata.   Infact, right from the first pictures from 2008 posted  of this species  by Kiran ji, Satish Phadke ji, Suresh ji, Dr. Gurcharan ji, Dinesh ji all have bluish anthers of the flowers and the purple venation on fruits ! In the database we do not have ( correct me if I am wrong) any species with greenish-yellow anthers  indicative of Physalis minima L. So all the species so far which have been ided as Physalis minima L. going by the paper, should be Physalis angulata. This is nothwithstanding  the variations in the size of the petioles, leaf dentations and lenght the of pedicles. 


Now the confusion : Kew database treats Physalis minima L., Physalis angulata and Physalis lagascae as separate species. I am attaching one herbarium specimen of Physalis lagascae and one of Physalis minima L.. There are records for Physalis angulata but no herbarium specimen for download.  


As Dr. Gurcharan ji has mentioned in the earlier thread GRIN considers Physalis lagascae as syn. to Physalis minima L.  Request  feedback and a relook of the database. Thank you.


regards,
Rashida.”

 

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 5, 2010, 12:25:31 AM7/5/10
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“Kindly refer: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/1f74fa7100de2b15/8613d7429fcab437?lnk=gst&q=Physalis#8613d7429fcab437
The bluish anthers and angled stem refers to Physalis angulata L. species.” Muthu ji.
 
“Thanks to Tanay ji and Muthu ji for making me study this species and the entire database on this species. It was quite an exercise. After going through the research papers (both) links given by Dr. Vijayasankar ji in earlier posts,  I agree with Muthu ji's  ID that my pics are indeed of Physalis angulata.   Infact, right from the first pictures from 2008 posted  of this species  by Kiran ji, Satish Phadke ji, Suresh ji, Dr. Gurcharan ji, Dinesh ji all have bluish anthers of the flowers and the purple venation on fruits ! In the database we do not have ( correct me if I am wrong) any species with greenish-yellow anthers  indicative of Physalis minima L. So all the species so far which have been ided as Physalis minima L. going by the paper, should be Physalis angulata. This is nothwithstanding  the variations in the size of the petioles, leaf dentations and lenght the of pedicles. 
Now the confusion : Kew database treats Physalis minima L., Physalis angulata and Physalis lagascae as separate species. I am attaching one herbarium specimen of Physalis lagascae and one of Physalis minima L.. There are records for Physalis angulata but no herbarium specimen for download.  
As Dr. Gurcharan ji has mentioned in the earlier thread GRIN considers Physalis lagascae as syn. to Physalis minima L.  Request  feedback and a relook of the database. Thank you.
regards,
Rashida.”

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Posting all the Pics I have of Physalis minima seen at Shahpur, Mah.,  last week of March, '10.  Request validation of ID.

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Rashida.

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nabha meghani

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Jul 5, 2010, 6:18:30 AM7/5/10
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my guess: physalis alkekengi, we call it lampionsblume
 
very decorative used a lot in x'mas decoration. Even the skeleton of the lampion is very decorative. I have some pictures, but can't find them (shame on me!). Will send, when i find the Fotos, or will make new ones.
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Nalini

JM Garg

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Jul 21, 2019, 2:59:27 AM7/21/19
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To me appears close to images at Physalis joe-diasii as per details and images herein. 


On Monday, 5 July 2010 09:55:31 UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“Kindly refer: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/1f74fa7100de2b15/8613d7429fcab437?lnk=gst&q=Physalis#8613d7429fcab437
The bluish anthers and angled stem refers to Physalis angulata L. species.” Muthu ji.
 
“Thanks to Tanay ji and Muthu ji for making me study this species and the entire database on this species. It was quite an exercise. After going through the research papers (both) links given by Dr. Vijayasankar ji in earlier posts,  I agree with Muthu ji's  ID that my pics are indeed of Physalis angulata.   Infact, right from the first pictures from 2008 posted  of this species  by Kiran ji, Satish Phadke ji, Suresh ji, Dr. Gurcharan ji, Dinesh ji all have bluish anthers of the flowers and the purple venation on fruits ! In the database we do not have ( correct me if I am wrong) any species with greenish-yellow anthers  indicative of Physalis minima L. So all the species so far which have been ided as Physalis minima L. going by the paper, should be Physalis angulata. This is nothwithstanding  the variations in the size of the petioles, leaf dentations and lenght the of pedicles. 
Now the confusion : Kew database treats Physalis minima L., Physalis angulata and Physalis lagascae as separate species. I am attaching one herbarium specimen of Physalis lagascae and one of Physalis minima L.. There are records for Physalis angulata but no herbarium specimen for download.  
As Dr. Gurcharan ji has mentioned in the earlier thread GRIN considers Physalis lagascae as syn. to Physalis minima L.  Request  feedback and a relook of the database. Thank you.
regards,
Rashida.”

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Posting all the Pics I have of Physalis minima seen at Shahpur, Mah.,  last week of March, '10.  Request validation of ID.

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