HP, August 2022 :: Cirsium falconeri for validation :: ARK2022-192

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Alka Khare

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Nov 3, 2022, 4:48:34 AM11/3/22
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Hello friends

This was at Solang near Manali, Himachal Pradesh in August 2022.

Cirsium falconeri

Requested to please validate.

Thanks and regards
Alka Khare
Cirsium falconeri_Manali Solang1.JPG
Cirsium falconeri_Manali Solang2.JPG
Cirsium falconeri_Manali Solang3.JPG

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 3, 2022, 4:51:16 AM11/3/22
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I guess the ID is correct!
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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J.M. Garg

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Nov 3, 2022, 5:48:56 AM11/3/22
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No.
This is Cirsium wallichii DC. (a highly variable species).
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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 3, 2022, 10:59:33 AM11/3/22
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Garg ji is right. Check your first image, upper involucre bracts are short broad without long spiny tips. Compare this with my upload of C. falconeri from Gulmarg where heads are larger, distinctly drooping with all involucre bracts with long spiny tips.
I am sharing one more image from Gulmarg to make things clear. 




Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.


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Alka Khare

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Nov 3, 2022, 10:43:18 PM11/3/22
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Thank you Garg ji for the correction.
Thanks Sir ji for explaining the difference.

Regards
Alka Khare
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