... reason for mistaking identities of mung and udid
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Dinesh Valke
Jun 5, 2010, 5:52:19 AM6/5/10
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Dear friends, ... what could be the reason for mistaking identities of moong and urid ?
This query is related to post at http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/894d590aec08192c?hl=en
Here is some portion of post for this post's context:
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In search of Vigna mungo or the the more popular Phaseolus mungo, ... following contradicting results:
Names in all languages for moong, for Phaseolus mungo ... ENVIS - FRLHT ... http://envis.frlht.org/plant_details.php?disp_id=2194
HINDI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=platts&query=Phaseolus+mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
H مونگ मूंग mūṅg [Prk. मुग्गो; S. मुट्गः], s.m. A species of pulse, Phaseolus mungo
KASHMIRI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=grierson&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
mŏng 1 म्वंग् । मुद्गः m. a species of pulse, Phaseolus Mungo (El. Phaseolus Max or Radiatus)
MARATHI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict.pl?query=%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%97&searchhws=yes&display=utf8&table=molesworth
मूग (p. 662) [ mūga ] m (मुद्ग S) A grain, Phaseolus mungo
PUNJABI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=singh&query=MUṆG&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
MÚṆG ਮੂੰਗ s. f. A plant (Phaseolus mungo, Nat. Ord. Leguminosæ)
SANSKRIT ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=apte&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
रसः rasḥ : (page 1331) ... (-मः) 1 quicksilver.-2 Phaseolus Mungo (Mar. मूग).
सौख्यम् saukhyam : (page 177) ... -दायकः Phaseolus Mungo (Mar. मूग).
हयः hayḥ : (page 1748) ... .-आनन्दः green grain of Phaselous Mungo (Mar. हिरवे मूग)
मुद्ग (p. 230) [ mud-gá ] m. kind of kidney-bean (Phaseolus Mungo: the plant and the seed).
TAMIL ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=tamillex&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
சிறுபயறு ciṟu-payaṟu, n. < id. +. 1. Green gram, Phaseolus mungo;
பச்சைப்பயறு paccai-p-payaṟu, n. < id. +. 1. Green gram, Phaseolus mungo;
பயறு payaṟu, n. ... Green-gram, Phaseolus mungo
TELUGU ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=gwynn&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
pesara n. (gen. pl. pesalu) greengram, phaseolus mungo
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In search of adad, udid, urad, urd ... following contradictory results:
GUJARATI ... http://www.gujaratilexicon.com/index.php?action=dictionary&chngdictype=EG
અડદ adad m. pl. kind of pulse, black beans, phaseolus radiatus
HINDI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=platts&query=%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%A6&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
H ارد उरद urd, urad, s.m. A kind of vetch, Dolichos pilosus
MARATHI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict.pl?query=उडीद&searchhws=yes&display=utf8&table=molesworth
उडीद (p. 091) [ uḍīda ] m A pulse, Phaseolus radiatus
PUNJABI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=singh&query=uṛd&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
MÁṆH ਮਾਂਹ s. m. A kind of grain (Phaseolus radiatus, P. Roxburghii, Nat. Ord. Leguminosæ) of which an edible pulse is made, (i. e. uṛd);
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MIX-UP
IMPGC ... http://impgc.com/plantinfo_A.php?id=307&bc
Botanical Name: Phaseolus mungo L. non Gagn.
English Name: Black gram, Mung bean, Urd bean.
Synonym(s): Vigna mungo (L.) Hepper Azukia mungo (L.) Masam., Phaseolus mungo L. non Roxb. & auct. mult., Phaseolus mungoradiatus sensu Baker, Phaseolus radiatus Roxb., non L., Phaseolus roxburghii Wight & Arn., Vigna mungo (L.) Hepper var mungo.
NPGS / GRIN ... http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?41621
black gram (Source: World Econ Pl ) - English
moong (Source: Dict Rehm ) - India
M.M.P.N.D. ... http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Vigna.html#mungo
SYNONYM(S) : Azukia mungo (L.) Masam., Phaseolus mungo L. non Gagn., Phaseolus mungo L. non Roxb. & auct. mult., Phaseolus mungo L. var. radiatus sensu Baker, Phaseolus radiatus Roxb., non L., Phaseolus roxburghii Wight & Arn., Vigna mungo (L.) Hepper var mungo.
HINDI : उरद Urd, उर्द, मूंग.
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Regards.
This query is related to post at http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/894d590aec08192c?hl=en
Here is some portion of post for this post's context:
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In search of Vigna mungo or the the more popular Phaseolus mungo, ... following contradicting results:
Names in all languages for moong, for Phaseolus mungo ... ENVIS - FRLHT ... http://envis.frlht.org/plant_details.php?disp_id=2194
HINDI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=platts&query=Phaseolus+mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
H مونگ मूंग mūṅg [Prk. मुग्गो; S. मुट्गः], s.m. A species of pulse, Phaseolus mungo
KASHMIRI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=grierson&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
mŏng 1 म्वंग् । मुद्गः m. a species of pulse, Phaseolus Mungo (El. Phaseolus Max or Radiatus)
MARATHI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict.pl?query=%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%97&searchhws=yes&display=utf8&table=molesworth
मूग (p. 662) [ mūga ] m (मुद्ग S) A grain, Phaseolus mungo
PUNJABI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=singh&query=MUṆG&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
MÚṆG ਮੂੰਗ s. f. A plant (Phaseolus mungo, Nat. Ord. Leguminosæ)
SANSKRIT ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=apte&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
रसः rasḥ : (page 1331) ... (-मः) 1 quicksilver.-2 Phaseolus Mungo (Mar. मूग).
सौख्यम् saukhyam : (page 177) ... -दायकः Phaseolus Mungo (Mar. मूग).
हयः hayḥ : (page 1748) ... .-आनन्दः green grain of Phaselous Mungo (Mar. हिरवे मूग)
मुद्ग (p. 230) [ mud-gá ] m. kind of kidney-bean (Phaseolus Mungo: the plant and the seed).
TAMIL ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=tamillex&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
சிறுபயறு ciṟu-payaṟu, n. < id. +. 1. Green gram, Phaseolus mungo;
பச்சைப்பயறு paccai-p-payaṟu, n. < id. +. 1. Green gram, Phaseolus mungo;
பயறு payaṟu, n. ... Green-gram, Phaseolus mungo
TELUGU ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=gwynn&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
pesara n. (gen. pl. pesalu) greengram, phaseolus mungo
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In search of adad, udid, urad, urd ... following contradictory results:
GUJARATI ... http://www.gujaratilexicon.com/index.php?action=dictionary&chngdictype=EG
અડદ adad m. pl. kind of pulse, black beans, phaseolus radiatus
HINDI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=platts&query=%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%A6&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
H ارد उरद urd, urad, s.m. A kind of vetch, Dolichos pilosus
MARATHI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict.pl?query=उडीद&searchhws=yes&display=utf8&table=molesworth
उडीद (p. 091) [ uḍīda ] m A pulse, Phaseolus radiatus
PUNJABI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=singh&query=uṛd&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
MÁṆH ਮਾਂਹ s. m. A kind of grain (Phaseolus radiatus, P. Roxburghii, Nat. Ord. Leguminosæ) of which an edible pulse is made, (i. e. uṛd);
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MIX-UP
IMPGC ... http://impgc.com/plantinfo_A.php?id=307&bc
Botanical Name: Phaseolus mungo L. non Gagn.
English Name: Black gram, Mung bean, Urd bean.
Synonym(s): Vigna mungo (L.) Hepper Azukia mungo (L.) Masam., Phaseolus mungo L. non Roxb. & auct. mult., Phaseolus mungoradiatus sensu Baker, Phaseolus radiatus Roxb., non L., Phaseolus roxburghii Wight & Arn., Vigna mungo (L.) Hepper var mungo.
NPGS / GRIN ... http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?41621
black gram (Source: World Econ Pl ) - English
moong (Source: Dict Rehm ) - India
M.M.P.N.D. ... http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Vigna.html#mungo
SYNONYM(S) : Azukia mungo (L.) Masam., Phaseolus mungo L. non Gagn., Phaseolus mungo L. non Roxb. & auct. mult., Phaseolus mungo L. var. radiatus sensu Baker, Phaseolus radiatus Roxb., non L., Phaseolus roxburghii Wight & Arn., Vigna mungo (L.) Hepper var mungo.
HINDI : उरद Urd, उर्द, मूंग.
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Regards.
Gurcharan Singh
Jun 5, 2010, 5:56:23 AM6/5/10
to Dinesh Valke, efloraofindia
Dinesh ji
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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
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A good topic for your research. Did some one give wrong local name to Linnaeus??
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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear friends, ... what could be the reason for mistaking identities of moong and urid ?
This query is related to post at http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/894d590aec08192c?hl=en
Here is some portion of post for this post's context:
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
In search of Vigna mungo or the the more popular Phaseolus mungo, ... following contradicting results:
Names in all languages for moong, for Phaseolus mungo ... ENVIS - FRLHT ... http://envis.frlht.org/plant_details.php?disp_id=2194
HINDI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=platts&query=Phaseolus+mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
H مونگ मूंग mūṅg [Prk. मुग्गो; S. मुट्गः], s.m. A species of pulse, Phaseolus mungo
KASHMIRI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=grierson&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8
mŏng 1 म्वंग् । मुद्गः m. a species of pulse, Phaseolus Mungo (El. Phaseolus Max or Radiatus)
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Dinesh Valke
Jun 5, 2010, 6:10:56 AM6/5/10
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... thinking other way round, Gurcharan ji ... were there two many trifoliate specimens on Linnaeus' table ? !!
Regards.
Regards.
promila chaturvedi
Jun 5, 2010, 7:41:46 AM6/5/10
to Dinesh Valke, Gurcharan Singh, efloraofindia
Now, beware of BANIAS.
Promila
Dr. Pankaj Kumar
Jul 11, 2010, 6:38:22 PM7/11/10
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"were there *two* many trifoliate specimens on Linnaeus' table ? !! "
I believe you meant TOO!!
Many times I have seen you and Tabish sir, explaining in a much
betterand sensible manner than most of the eminent botanist. You are
on dot and secondly, the time he named radiatus, may be he wasnt aware
of the other one which he described almost 12 years later. :)) so
simple......
I gave the details in other post......that you may like to check.....
You are just great and big asset for this group!!! Hats off to you!!
Pankaj
I believe you meant TOO!!
Many times I have seen you and Tabish sir, explaining in a much
betterand sensible manner than most of the eminent botanist. You are
on dot and secondly, the time he named radiatus, may be he wasnt aware
of the other one which he described almost 12 years later. :)) so
simple......
I gave the details in other post......that you may like to check.....
You are just great and big asset for this group!!! Hats off to you!!
Pankaj
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