Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb16 for Id- JM

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J.M. Garg

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Nov 17, 2010, 11:42:33 PM11/17/10
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Wild Herb captured on 13/8/10 during the trek from Ghangaria (around 11,000 ft.) to Hemkunt Sahib (around 14000 ft.).

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Pankaj Kumar

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Dec 3, 2010, 10:06:04 AM12/3/10
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This looks like Cremanthodium to me.... not sure of the species.
Pankaj

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Prashant awale

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Dec 3, 2010, 10:14:08 AM12/3/10
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I think this could be Cremanthodium oblongatum?
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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 3, 2010, 11:51:27 AM12/3/10
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I was about to righr C. oblongatum when I saw Prashant ji's message. The venation is clearly pinnate (the only species from neighbouring region to have it) and leaves somewhat oblong.


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Pankaj Kumar

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Dec 3, 2010, 12:30:54 PM12/3/10
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There is just one big issue here
Flower head is supposed to be solitary in Cremanthodium oblongatum.
Which is not the case here.
Our plant has clear terminal spike like cluster!!

Pankaj

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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 3, 2010, 1:20:20 PM12/3/10
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Yes Pankaj ji
It is a big issue. Cremanthodium is not known (to my knowledge) to have more than one head on a peduncle.

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Pankaj Kumar

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Dec 3, 2010, 1:38:23 PM12/3/10
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No, there are two groups.

1. Flower heads in terminal spike like structure
Includes - retusum, hookerii, arnicoides.

2. Flower heads solitary.
Includes - renforme, decaisnei,purpureifolium, ellisii, oblongatum,
nepalense, nanum.

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Pankaj

J.M. Garg

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Dec 5, 2010, 6:09:35 AM12/5/10
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Thanks, Singh ji, Pankaj ji & Prashant ji.

In that case, I think it matches with Cremanthodium arnicoides details in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin & Adam Stainton.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 5, 2010, 3:33:38 PM12/5/10
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Yes Cremanthodium arnicoides, formerly Senecio arnicoides.


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