Plant for I from Paddar valley J&K. 221211 SRANA 02

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Suresh Kumar Rana

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Dec 22, 2011, 6:46:53 AM12/22/11
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Request for Identification

Kindly identify the plant. 
Date: 16th July 2011.
Location: Paddar valley district Kishtwar J&K.
Altitude: 3100 meters asl.
Plant height: 15-20 cms
Plant habit/habitat: Wild herb

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Suresh Rana

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amit kumar

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Dec 22, 2011, 9:41:49 AM12/22/11
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looking some primula spp. to me
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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 22, 2011, 10:25:11 AM12/22/11
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Not Primula, member of Boraginaceae.


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Tanay Bose

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Dec 22, 2011, 12:08:16 PM12/22/11
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Yes Sir Ji is correct this is indeed from Boraginaceae 
Possibly Pseudomertensia moltkioides (Royle ex Benth.) Kazmi in J. Arn. Arb. 51(3): 380. 1970
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Suresh Kumar Rana

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Dec 23, 2011, 12:44:02 AM12/23/11
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Respected Sirs

I have the attached plant under the name Pseudomertensia moltkioides.
Kindly confirm if both the species are same or different.

Thanks and regards
Suresh Rana

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Tanay Bose

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Dec 23, 2011, 12:54:33 AM12/23/11
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Yes this is Pseudomertensia moltkioides  I think you posted this
plant previously which I tried to identify.
Tanay

Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 23, 2011, 2:21:30 AM12/23/11
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Yes this second photograph is more likely P. moltkioides. The corolla tube is definetly more than twice as long as Calyx. For specific identity of first plant, close up of flower or side view of flower to expose length of corolla tube is necessary.

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Suresh Kumar Rana

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Dec 23, 2011, 5:07:34 AM12/23/11
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Respected Sirs

The length of corolla tube in the first species is shorter as compared to second one. Attaching another side view of plant for further identification clues.
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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 23, 2011, 7:13:31 AM12/23/11
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Calyx is not clearly visible, but P. trollii could be considered.


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jmgarg1

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Jun 18, 2012, 5:25:36 AM6/18/12
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback from another thread https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/nBjSO9qLL20:

“Both this and other plant identified as P. moltkoides need to be relooked, as typical Pseudomertensia should have erect corolla lobes (and not spreading).” from Singh ji.

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Jun 25, 2012, 1:31:46 AM6/25/12
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback from another thread https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/nBjSO9qLL20:

“Both this and other plant identified as P. moltkoides need to be relooked, as typical Pseudomertensia should have erect corolla lobes (and not spreading).” from Singh ji.

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From: Suresh Kumar Rana <envsu...@gmail.com>
Date: 23 December 2011 15:37
Subject: Re: [efloraindia:100318] Plant for I from Paddar valley J&K. 221211 SRANA 02
To: Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com>
Cc: Tanay Bose <tanay...@gmail.com>, amit kumar <mithuc...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


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J.M. Garg

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May 31, 2019, 6:50:49 AM5/31/19
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May be some Myosotis species as per images herein.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 1, 2019, 4:39:51 AM6/1/19
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Dear Suresh Ji !

Elevation, location and date would be helpful for proper ID.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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