Hydnocarpus macrocarpus ID request #531

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jul 19, 2024, 2:57:10 AMJul 19
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Sharing images of female inflorescence.
Location: near Vannappuram, Thodupuzha, Idukki Kerala INDIA (Alt:1500fsl)
Flower date: 22MAY2024, 04.25pm
Flower: axillary umbel inflorescence peduncle length:08mm, umbel diameter:04mm, densely micro flowers, non fragrant
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jul 19, 2024, 2:58:13 AMJul 19
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Sharing an image 
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vip...@gmail.com

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Jul 22, 2024, 1:00:36 PMJul 22
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These do not look like the female/bisexual flowers of Hydnocarpus macrocarpus at all. Am I missing something?

Best wishes, Viplav

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jul 22, 2024, 2:25:54 PMJul 22
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Dear Viplav ji,
It is captured from same kind of tree having same kind of leaves from same location.  Can you please post image or diagram of female inflorescence?
With regards, Sam.

vip...@gmail.com

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Jul 23, 2024, 8:58:30 AMJul 23
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The female/bisexual flowers of Hydnocarpus macrocarpus would be crowned with a conspicuous, lobed stigma. Please refer to the attached document from the KFRI report on this tree for reference.

Best wishes, Viplav
Hydnocarpus macrocarpus_flowers.pdf

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jul 23, 2024, 10:35:28 AMJul 23
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Dear Viplav ji, 

Thanks a lot for sharing the images and information.  I think the images provided by me are immature inflorescence, otherwise maybe attack by pest.  The images captured from a very lower branch of the tree.

With regards, Sam.

J.M. Garg

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Jul 27, 2024, 10:42:24 AMJul 27
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Can it be something from Loranthaceae?
Hi, Sam ji,
Pl. post images of the complete leaf and the tree branches.

On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 20:05, Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Viplav ji, 

Thanks a lot for sharing the images and information.  I think the images provided by me are immature inflorescence, otherwise maybe attack by pest.  The images captured from a very lower branch of the tree.

With regards, Sam.


On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, 6:28 pm vip...@gmail.com, <vip...@gmail.com> wrote:

The female/bisexual flowers of Hydnocarpus macrocarpus would be crowned with a conspicuous, lobed stigma. Please refer to the attached document from the KFRI report on this tree for reference.

Best wishes, Viplav

On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 at 23:55, Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Viplav ji,
It is captured from same kind of tree having same kind of leaves from same location.  Can you please post image or diagram of female inflorescence?
With regards, Sam.

On Mon, 22 Jul 2024, 10:30 pm vip...@gmail.com, <vip...@gmail.com> wrote:

These do not look like the female/bisexual flowers of Hydnocarpus macrocarpus at all. Am I missing something?

Best wishes, Viplav

On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 at 12:28, Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sharing an image 

On Fri, 19 Jul 2024, 12:26 pm Sam Kuzhalanattu, <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sharing images of female inflorescence.
Location: near Vannappuram, Thodupuzha, Idukki Kerala INDIA (Alt:1500fsl)
Flower date: 22MAY2024, 04.25pm
Flower: axillary umbel inflorescence peduncle length:08mm, umbel diameter:04mm, densely micro flowers, non fragrant


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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jul 28, 2024, 11:47:16 AMJul 28
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Sure, dear Garg ji.
Kind regards, Sam

J.M. Garg

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Aug 5, 2024, 8:02:01 AMAug 5
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Waiting for these.
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Aug 5, 2024, 1:05:09 PMAug 5
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Here it is. 

Height: 20 meters, 60 inches base circumference 

Leaves: alternate elongated simple flexible glossy size upto: 22x8cm

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Aug 5, 2024, 1:08:30 PMAug 5
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Sharing more images

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Aug 5, 2024, 1:12:13 PMAug 5
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Inflorescence in the marked circle, sharing more images.

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Aug 5, 2024, 1:14:04 PMAug 5
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Sharing an image

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J.M. Garg

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Aug 16, 2024, 12:45:34 AMAug 16
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J.M. Garg

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Aug 16, 2024, 12:59:15 AMAug 16
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

These do not look like the female/bisexual flowers of Hydnocarpus macrocarpus at all. Am I missing something?

Best wishes, Viplav 

It is captured from same kind of tree having same kind of leaves from same location. Can you please post image or diagram of female inflorescence?

With regards, Sam. 

The female/bisexual flowers of Hydnocarpus macrocarpus would be crowned with a conspicuous, lobed stigma. Please refer to the attached document from the KFRI report on this tree for reference.

Best wishes, Viplav 

Thanks a lot for sharing the images and information.  I think the images provided by me are immature inflorescence, otherwise maybe attack by pest.  The images captured from a very lower branch of the tree.
With regards, Sam. 

Can it be something from Loranthaceae?
Hi, Sam ji,

Pl. post images of the complete leaf and the tree branches. - from me

Here it is.
Height: 20 meters, 60 inches base circumference

Leaves: alternate elongated simple flexible glossy size upto: 22x8cm - from Sam ji

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With regards,
J.M.Garg
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J.M. Garg

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Aug 24, 2024, 3:19:41 AMAug 24
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---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Giby Kuriakose <giby.ku...@shcollege.ac.in>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 at 11:29
Subject: Re: Hydnocarpus macrocarpus ID request #531
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzh...@gmail.com>, vip...@gmail.com <vip...@gmail.com>


This could be H. alpina.


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GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD
Assistant Professor and Research Guide,
PG and Research Department of Botany
Sacred Heart College  (Autonomous), Thevara
Kochi, Kerala, India  682 013
Phone - +914844044436 (office) +919947109987 (Mobile)




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J.M.Garg

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Aug 24, 2024, 7:01:12 AMAug 24
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Thank you very much dear Garg ji and Giby ji,
Kind regards, Sam.

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