efloraofindia:''For Id 24092011MR3’’ pretty white flowers ?congress grass Pune

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Madhuri Raut

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24-Sept-2011, 4:08:12 am24/09/11
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  Request for identification


Date/Time-Sep 2011


Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-Pune


Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Wild


Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Herb


Height/Length- 10 cms approx


Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-Green


Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- pretty white flowers


Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- ?white seeds


I think this is called Congress grass ? ?ergot


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Bhagyashri

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Balkar Arya

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24-Sept-2011, 4:19:14 am24/09/11
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Parthenium hysterophorus
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Madhuri Raut

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24-Sept-2011, 4:43:58 am24/09/11
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Thank you Balkarji
Regards
Bhagyashri

Ushadi micromini

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24-Sept-2011, 10:37:30 am24/09/11
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Bhagyashri: NOT ergot...
ergot is what paratizies winter wheat/rye... and some other
grasses...... and from which ergotamine/methergin the uterine
contaction medicine is derived... and Cafergot was being used when I
was an intern for migraine...now I dont know, stronger painkillers
seem to have replaced vasoactive substances.

We worry more about toxicity of ergot than the therapeutic
benefits....

wiki has nice short essay with details and pictures ... at URL:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergot
our old pharmacology texts used to show, as did the biochemistry
texts...

happy reading
usha di
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On Sep 24, 1:43 pm, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Balkarji
> Regards
> Bhagyashri
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> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Parthenium hysterophorus
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Tanay Bose

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24-Sept-2011, 1:27:53 pm24/09/11
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Usha Di.
Many drugs are made from ergot which is actually a fungus
called Claviceps purpurea. One of the famous banned 
drug from ergot is LSD .

Tanay
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ushadi Micromini

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24-Sept-2011, 1:39:34 pm24/09/11
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Dear Tanay... jani...   but that research stayed at theta level.. while ergotamine and cafergot have had a very practical legal usage in allopathic medicine... that's why it stays up in memory and gets recalled first...  thanks..

Usha di

ushadi Micromini

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24-Sept-2011, 1:41:53 pm24/09/11
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yes Madhuri, is n't childhood memory marvelous... 
its wonderful the way a child remembers stuff.....

WHeat could be mixed in with the weeds seeds and simultaneously  be infected with ergot fungus...
there are many episodes of ergot poisoning in europe when the entire section  of population ate ergot infected rye bread.. rye is a type of wheat in europe.....
so your neighbor of childhood may have it right that there was congress grass seeds and ergot... both.. could be...
I wonder if anybody has looked into whether indians around that time had a higher incidence of leaky valve syndromes or other vascular disorders out of proportion HIGH incidence  or miscarriages or other vascular events, incidences of  which have since subsided ... since the infected wheat is no longer consumed...

we in India have the some of the strongest statisticians but the govt  never looks into these kinds a data...   I have not seen any papers related to wheat weed problems affecting heart or causing higher numbers of miscarriages/abortions....

Usha di
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On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Madhuri Raut <iti...@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ushadi Thank you
I will tell you why I said ?ergot. As a child when Emergency was declared  wheat available in the market was mixed with some other seed which I was told by someone that it is Congress grass seed and is called Ergot bi. I had those memories and so just wanted to confirm
Regards
Bhagyashri

Madhuri Raut

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24-Sept-2011, 1:55:07 pm24/09/11
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@Ushadi I agree such an important thing to find out esp about miscarriage statistics but as you rightly said the Government does nothing . And yes you have so much knowledge and so much in details I wonder how you remember so many details. Hats off to you!!
Regards
Bhagyashri

Tanay Bose

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24-Sept-2011, 2:01:00 pm24/09/11
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This link for all the people who wants to know more about
how ergot came to the attention of human civilization.
Tanay

ushadi Micromini

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25-Sept-2011, 12:52:06 am25/09/11
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Tanay babuji: bhalo bolechho... to all who want to learn about it..
nice to have it at our fingertips... now ...

but of course we studied it in First year of Med school till 3rd year as theory in Calcutta... and then periodically thru the clinical years... as practicals...

Thank you...

Usha di
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Tanay Bose

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25-Sept-2011, 1:01:06 am25/09/11
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Hi Usha Di.
I am advertising for Fungi!! :)
Tanay

ushadi Micromini

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25-Sept-2011, 1:13:09 am25/09/11
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ha ha... Tanay,

They do a good job of advertising for themselves right now.. Calcutta parks are replete with them.. where there is an ounce of dead organic material fungi of all kinds have taken over and their spores are causing a lot cough and sinusitis ....


are you studying fungii?

what area of fungii?

Usha di
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hari lal

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25-Sept-2011, 1:35:04 am25/09/11
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Parthenium hysterophorus asteraceae family local name gajar ghas nice phot graph
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Madhuri Raut

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25-Sept-2011, 7:13:20 am25/09/11
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Thank you Harilalji
Regards
Bhagyashri
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