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[shivaprakash adavanne]

hello,
please find attached flowering plant for identification.

Photographed at Kodachadri ranges, Shimoga district, Karnataka

regards
a.shivaprakash

[Neil Soares]

Hi,  This looks like Wild Moong [Vigna radiata].                      Regards,                        Neil Soares. --- On Thu, 10/14/10, shivaprakash adavanne <adav...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

Earlier feedback

Neil ji......................................This looks like Wild Moong [Vigna radiata].

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Date: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:11 PM
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[Balkar Arya]

I thind It is URAD not MOONG



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Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
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[Neil Soares]

Hi Dr.Balkar Singh,   Have no idea what Urad is, but you could be right. Sending you my photographs of Wild Moong for comparison. The photographs were taken at my farm at Shahapur.                          With regards,                           Neil Soares. --- On Sat, 10/30/10, Balkar Arya <balka...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Dinesh Valke]

... Neil ji's plant looks very familiar to me, Vigna radiata ... the flower / fruit on erect, slender stalk.
Shivaprakash ji's plant seems different.

Regards.

[Balkar Arya]

The plant of Neil ji is Vigna radiata

Vigna mungo is called as urad dal, udad dal, urd bean, urd.

Leaves are different in Urad i am posting Urad pics

[Neil Soares]

Hi Dr. Balkar Singh,    The leaves of your plant Vigna mungo looks different from those of the plant posted by Shivaprakash Adavanne.                         Regards,

Neil Soares. --- On Sat, 10/30/10, Balkar Arya <balka...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Balkar Arya <balka...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:52475] Requesting id

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[navendu page]

Sorry for the late reply, was out of station. I think it should be some species  Phaseolus

navendu

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“I think it should be some species  Phaseolus

navendu”

 

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[Gurcharan Singh]

The names moong and urd and the specific epithets really seem to be creating confusion. To set the record straight we are discussing here three taxa (let us forget Phaseolus because most yellow flowered species have now been shifted to Vigna):

Vigna mungo (L.) Hepper: Black gram, Urad bean, Urad, Harikot mungo, Mash; leaflets unlobed, fruits thicker, 4-5 cm long, densely covered with lighter long hairs, seeds dirty green to almost black, hilum surrounded by a raised rim (aril) (5-10 cm long)

Vigna radiata var. radiata: Golden gram, Green gram, Moog-bean; plants short, erect,  leaflets unlobed, fruits thinner, 6-9 cm long, sparsely covered with shorter brownish hairs, seed light green, longer

Vigna radiata var. sublobata: Jarusalem pea, wild moog; plants twinning, leaflets generally lobed, fruit thinner, 4-6 cm long, sparsely covered with shorter brownish hairs, seeds light green, shorter.

Neil ji's plant clearly has brownish hairs on pods and some leaflets slightly lobed: It is surely V. radiata var. sublobata, the wild moog

Balkar ji's plant with pods having thicker pods with longer lighter hairs should be V. mungo, the urad bean or black gram

Sivaprakash ji's plant  should also be V. mungo, although difficult to say without fruits.

    

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/