171 ID wild plant

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Members,

Please ID wild plant, kind regards, Sam.

Location: near Reserve Forest, Chathamattom, Ernakulam District, (Kochi) Kerala PIN:686671

Altitude: 1400fsl

Flower date: 28.07.2021, 01.25pm

Habitat: wild moisture

Plant habit: climbing, branches, hard stem, whitish old stem, hairy/velvety, long lasting

Height: 04 meters

Leaves: opposite, ovate, apex, velvety both sides, size:08×4cm or less

Flower: racemose, clustered, diameter:02mm, yellow, non fragrant

Fruit: globular green, diameter:08mm

Seed: 

Camera: Samsung Galaxy A21s +macro lens

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

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[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Gymnema sp.,

With regards.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Gymnema sylvestre (Retz.) R.Br. ex Sm.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Yes, it is dear Saroj ji and Paradesi ji.  But the fruit image is different.  The fruit image is collected from similar plant (in my view) half km distance and no flowers in it.  With kind regards, Sam.

[Saroj Kasaju]

OK Sam.

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Saroj ji,  Paradesi ji,

Yes, the fruit is cone shaped and latex visible (captured from near Kottappara Hills, Vannappuram P.O., Thodupuzha, Idukki Dt., Kerala at a distance of 10km from my location).  I am happy to share more information and images, kind regards, Sam.

Fruit: cone shaped, green into brown, lengthy 10cm, base diameter:10mm

[Saroj Kasaju]

So ID ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

The ID Gymnema sylvestre that suggested by you are correct, dear Saroj ji.  The single leaf and young stem (opposite) images are of the fruit plant's, and original leaf and stem images are under, with kind regards, Sam.

[Saroj Kasaju]

OK Sam !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

There is another closely related species Gymnema decaisneanum (syn: Gymnema hirsutum Wight & Arn.; Gymnema mohanramii Karthik. & Moorthy) to Gymnema sylvestre.

May be experts help in finalising the id. 

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J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

There is another closely related species Gymnema decaisneanum (syn: Gymnema hirsutum Wight & Arn.; Gymnema mohanramii Karthik. & Moorthy) to Gymnema sylvestre.

May be experts help in finalising the id. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Keys are available in Flora of peninsular India.

I do not know if we can decide based on this. 

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J.M.Garg

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

I am sure it is Gymnema sylvestre, dear Garg ji, Keralaplants.in also says it is Gymnema sylvestre. Please check the Malayalam name in screen shot, kind regards, Sam.

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

I am agree to whatever your decision, dear Garg ji, in this regard.

Sincerely yours,

Sam.

[J.M. Garg]

Keys are available in Flora of peninsular India.

I do not know if we can decide based on this. 

Also attaching a copy of the publication.

Maybe the experts can help.

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[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Thank you very much for providing the link and information, dear Garg ji. I agreed with the description in the link and the images match with my plant.  G. mohanramii is reported from Kerala, and also listed in Ernakulam District, so I think it is Gymnema mohanramii.  With kind regards, Sam.

[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

Is this ID finalised ?

https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77108375-1

https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:60454719-2

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Saroj ji,

Thank you very much sharing identification links for my plant.  Here is image updation.

Location: near Vannappuram, Thodupuzha, Idukki Kerala INDIA

Altitude: 1500fsl

Flower date: 31MAY2023, 04.10pm

Please take a look on these images.

Kind regards, Sam.

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Saroj ji, 

Thank you very much for sharing ID links.  Please finalize it.

Kind regards, Sam.

On Tue, 15 Jul, 2025, 2:14 pm Saroj Kasaju, <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Please check the distribution  area :

https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=5555&cat=13

https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=5549&cat=13

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

What does the distribution area says ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Saroj ji,

Gymnema sylvestre have distribution in all districts of Kerala, where as G. decaisneanum having distribution only in Kottayam and Trivandrum districts, not mentioned in Idukki or its border Ernakulam district.  So it is G. Sylvester only?

Kind regards, Sam.

[Saroj Kasaju]

I am unable to decide.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju