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Gurcharan Singh

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May 16, 2012, 8:23:04 AM5/16/12
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Forwarding again for ID. I have removed some to decrease upload size.


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Forwarding for help in ID


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Date: Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:09 PM
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Res. Sir,
Namaskar,
I live at Nashik . Maharashtra,
Some body gave me. ryzome  of plant like Ginger Last year.
Now the plant has developed. And has Flowers to plant.
but flower holder shoot out right from soil.
Photos of Development are attached .
Please, Give me Identification of this plant.
Regards, 



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Dr Pankaj Kumar

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May 16, 2012, 11:09:57 PM5/16/12
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Of course a Curcuma but which one? 
caesia?
Pankaj

ushadi Micromini

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May 17, 2012, 1:14:53 AM5/17/12
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Pankaj: I was thinking it was what is called kali haldi , most likely.. dont know the binomial though...
the black/dark rib may be the id
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Pankaj Kumar

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May 17, 2012, 1:18:21 AM5/17/12
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Caesia refers to blue colour (which may be dark or light or almost
brinjal coloured). Its the same species and it is called kali haldi
because of the black or blue ring present inside the rhizome and the
dry rhizome is black and also due to blue stripe on the midrib of the
leaf. But such stripes are found in many Curcuma.
Pankaj
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ushadi Micromini

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May 17, 2012, 2:25:38 AM5/17/12
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Dear Mr Shigote:
you are lucky, this a rather not too common Black Haldi, used in Ayurvedic therapies...
Let it grow and multiply ... and send us more pictures as more leaves and flowers develop.  Leave them in ground or soil of the pot for atleast two years to grow and multiply....
Please refer to Dr Pankaj sahani's replies above...

Usha di

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@ Pankaj: you are right I have seen it in one of our herbal classes , fresh and dried...

had forgotten the binomial...
thanks
Usha di
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Giby Kuriakose

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May 17, 2012, 3:19:46 AM5/17/12
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Please check Curcuma zanthorrhiza Roxb. Please check whether the rhizome smells like camphor (Sabu 2006)


Regards
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jmgarg1

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May 25, 2012, 6:36:17 AM5/25/12
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Please check Curcuma zanthorrhiza Roxb. Please check whether the rhizome smells like camphor (Sabu 2006)

Regards

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Prabhu kumar KM

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May 28, 2012, 4:13:45 AM5/28/12
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Dear all,

A simple field identification key for Curcuma with purple patches on leaves
Three species showing this purple patches on leaves. C. zanthorrhiza, C. aeruginosa and C. caesia.
1. Curcuma zanthorrhiza: Rhizome colour is yellow to deep yellow, patch on both sides along the whole length of the midrib.
2. Curcuma aeruginosa: Rhizome colour blue in centre (or blue rings in the rhizome) verging towards grey, patch on the distal half on the upper side only.
3. Curcuma caesia: Rhizome colour is blue to dark blue, but densely pubescent on the upper part of the leaf.


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Pankaj Kumar

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May 28, 2012, 8:59:54 AM5/28/12
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There are more species which have blue or purple markings on leaves. 

Prabhu kumar KM

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May 28, 2012, 11:37:16 PM5/28/12
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Yes, but this plant is collected from Nasik.
In these area very few plants showing this character.

JM Garg

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 25, 2023, 12:50:40 AM9/25/23
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Forwarding again for ID pl. 
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Prejith Sampath

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Sep 25, 2023, 1:11:27 AM9/25/23
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Maybe C.caesia (blue rhizome), C. zanthorrhiza (yellow-orange rhizome) or C.zedoaria (cream coloured rhizome).

Best regards
Prejith 

J.M. Garg

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Sep 25, 2023, 2:08:17 AM9/25/23
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Thanks a lot, Sabu ji
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Check the colour of the rhizome.
Thanking you,
Sincerely yours,
M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.
CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS
Calicut, 673014.
Formerly Professor & Head
Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673 635, India
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Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Nov 1, 2025, 4:36:04 AM11/1/25
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Curcuma caesia Roxb.  ?

Thank you
Saroj Kasaju
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