Thanks for the information on the difference between the two
species. Unfortunately our present situation is not helped by it, as
Prashant and us, both have photographed only unlobed leaves, no fruits
and the nature of pubescence can't be distinguished from our pics.
On Oct 22, 2:00 am, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com
> Tabish ji
> The Himalayan Ivy H. nepalensis is different from European Ivy H. helix in
> first presence of scaly pubescence (and not stellate), fruit golden yellow
> (not black).
> Also the juvenile leaves of H.helix are broader and regularly 5 lobed,
> whereas in H. nepalensis the juvenile leaves are narrower and with two to
> five small lobes on each side, also the leaves are greyish between the
> lateral veins..
> Attaching the leaves of both species. H. helix grows just ourside my door
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
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> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Tabish <tabi...@gmail.com
> > We also found the same or similar woody climber in Dhanaulti,
> > Uttarakhand, at altitudes of about 2500 m. Since we found it growing
> > absolutely wild, I presume it to be the native species Hedera
> > nepalensis. We found the leaves to be leathery, which agree with H.
> > nepalensis. I was trying to find something to distinguish it from
> > Hedera helix which is an alien invasive species, and could have become
> > naturalized here.
> > In pictures of Hedera hexlix, like the following:
> > http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+0000+0909+1829
> > the leaves don't appear to be leathery. The description at PIERS does
> > not mention that the leaves are leathery, so I guess they are not
> > http://www.hear.org/pier/species/hedera_helix.htm
> > Thus I conclude my species to be Hedera nepalensis. Please validate.
> > About Prashant's plant, I feel it should be Hedera nepalensis,
> > although from the pictures I don't know how to rule out H. helix.
> > Best wishes
> > - Tabish