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manudev madhavan

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Mar 6, 2011, 10:42:42 PM3/6/11
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Dear all,
 
Could you please help me to identify this plant.
Collected from  Mount Harriet, South Andamans
I hope this could be a species of Zeuxine??
 
regards
 
Manudev K Madhavan
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Pankaj Kumar

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Mar 7, 2011, 12:28:45 AM3/7/11
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Dear Manu
Please accept my apologies that I have not been able to check this
properly. I assume the flower is not fully open thats why this is
getting tricky. At one glance I thought this could be Zeuxine affinis
(assuming lips needs some more straightening up).
Will confirm soon.
Sorry
Pankaj

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Pankaj Kumar

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Mar 7, 2011, 10:23:21 PM3/7/11
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I sent your pictures to my friend at BSI, Dr Avishek, who is an expert
on this group of Orchids. He says this could be Zeuxine nervosa but
lips is showing variation. You need to dissect the flower and share
the pictures if possible.
Regards
Pankaj


On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:12 AM, manudev madhavan
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manudev madhavan

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Mar 8, 2011, 9:00:40 AM3/8/11
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Dear Sir,

Thank you very much for your help
I had the doubt that it could be Z.nervosa.
It is very interesting to hear that the plant shows variation from Z. nervosa.
I am not sure whether , the differences are concrete enough to separate it from Z.nerrvosa.
Could that be the difference due to the change in habit???
Anyway, let me dissect it out first.
Now I am out of station.
Get back to you soon with more details about the plant.
Special thanks for the reprints of papers and figures.

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Systematic & Floristic Lab,
Department of Botany, 
Centre for Postgraduate Studies & Research 
St. Joseph's College, Devagiri
Kozhikode- 673 008
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Pankaj Kumar

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Mar 8, 2011, 9:11:43 AM3/8/11
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I just got this mail from Orchid expert from Kew, Dr. Andre for my new
article on Zeuxine. I am attaching a part of it here for you to
understand the problem here:

Dr. Andre Schuiteman: "Thanks for the excellent article. I think you
have made a convincing case there. Many Zeuxine species, and related
orchids, are still incompletely known, as the structure of the lip and
column is often almost impossible to reconstruct from herbarium
specimens."

Now that you have the flowers you can only resolve the doubts or you
can send some flowers to me in 70% alcohol. I will request you to
prepare a good sketch of it. If you need any more help from me, then
you know where to ring or mail. Dr. Andre and Dr. Avishek (PhD on
Jewel orchids of India) are very helpful.

Regards
Pankaj


On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 7:30 PM, manudev madhavan

J.M. Garg

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Jun 19, 2011, 3:30:30 AM6/19/11
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Please accept my apologies that I have not been able to check this


properly. I assume the flower is not fully open thats why this is
getting tricky. At one glance I thought this could be Zeuxine affinis
(assuming lips needs some more straightening up).
Will confirm soon.
Sorry

Pankaj”

 

“I sent your pictures to my friend at BSI, Dr Avishek, who is an expert


on this group of Orchids. He says this could be Zeuxine nervosa but
lips is showing variation. You need to dissect the flower and share
the pictures if possible.
Regards

Pankaj”

 

“Thank you very much for your help

I had the doubt that it could be Z.nervosa.
It is very interesting to hear that the plant shows variation from Z. nervosa.
I am not sure whether , the differences are concrete enough to separate it from Z.nerrvosa.
Could that be the difference due to the change in habit???
Anyway, let me dissect it out first.
Now I am out of station.
Get back to you soon with more details about the plant.
Special thanks for the reprints of papers and figures.” from Manudev ji.
 
"I just got this mail from Orchid expert from Kew, Dr. Andre for my new
article on Zeuxine. I am attaching a part of it here for you to
understand the problem here:
Dr. Andre Schuiteman: "Thanks for the excellent article. I think you
have made a convincing case there. Many Zeuxine species, and related
orchids, are still incompletely known, as the structure of the lip and
column is often almost impossible to reconstruct from herbarium
specimens."
Now that you have the flowers you can only resolve the doubts or you
can send some flowers to me in 70% alcohol. I will request you to
prepare a good sketch of it. If you need any more help from me, then
you know where to ring or mail. Dr. Andre and Dr. Avishek (PhD on
Jewel orchids of India) are very helpful.
Regards
Pankaj"


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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 3, 2011, 2:27:59 AM9/3/11
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manudev madhavan

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Oct 1, 2011, 6:58:48 AM10/1/11
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Dear all,

Since the plant shows some variation, am waiting for the next flowering season..
I will let you know the details as soon as I get flowers.. 
regards

Gurcharan Singh

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Mar 15, 2021, 7:55:56 AM3/15/21
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Forwarding for ID
Distributed as Zeuxine nervosa ?
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Gurcharan Singh

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Mar 15, 2021, 7:57:18 AM3/15/21
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Forwarding for ID
Distributed as Zeuxine nervosa ?
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Pankaj Kumar

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Mar 15, 2021, 8:01:40 AM3/15/21
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Again Zeuxine rolfiana.
Thanks for sharing.
Pankaj
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Gurcharan Singh

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Mar 15, 2021, 11:41:33 PM3/15/21
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Message received from Manudev ji: 
Dear Sir,

This specimen was later identified as Zeuxine rolfiana King & Pantl. by Dr. Avishek Bhattacharjee, BSI, Kolkata. 
This collection turned out to be the first collection of this taxon after its discovery (after 121 years). We together published a paper titled "Rediscovery of Zeuxine rolfiana, a ‘Critically Endangered’, endemic Indian orchid from Andaman and Nicobar islands with note on its typification"




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Dear Sir,

This specimen was later identified as Zeuxine rolfiana King & Pantl. by Dr. Avishek Bhattacharjee, BSI, Kolkata. 
This collection turned out to be the first collection of this taxon after its discovery (after 121 years). We together published a paper titled "Rediscovery of Zeuxine rolfiana, a ‘Critically Endangered’, endemic Indian orchid from Andaman and Nicobar islands with note on its typification"
Please see the attached PDF below. 

With best regards
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Assistant Professor,
Centre for Postgraduate Studies & Research Department of Botany, 
St. Joseph's College (Autonomous), Devagiri,
Medical College P.O., Kozhikode District, Kerala- 673 008
Rediscovery of Zeuxine rolfiana, a ‘Critically Endangered’, endemic Indian orchid from Andaman and Nicobar islands with note on its typification.unlocked.pdf
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