Colocasia esculenta :: Dattaji Salvi Udyan :: 01 MAY 18

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Dinesh Valke

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May 3, 2018, 11:14:18 AM5/3/18
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Dattaji Salvi Udyan
Dattaji Salvi Udyan  Thane
Date: May 1, 2018 ... Altitude: about 11 m (36 feet) asl

Colocasia esculenta  (L.) Schott 'Coffee Cups'
Colocasia esculenta (L.) Schott 'Coffee Cups'
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Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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May 4, 2018, 12:32:12 AM5/4/18
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Superb capture, Dinesh ji 

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Pudji Widodo

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May 9, 2018, 10:59:28 AM5/9/18
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Dear Sirs,

Could you show me the upper surface of the leaves please.  Or how many tubers are there per individual plant.  These are the keys for identification. Thank you.

Pudji

Dinesh Valke

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May 9, 2018, 11:16:26 AM5/9/18
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Pudji ji, I do not have pictures of upper surface of leaf; but I will surely get it when I visit the garden again. I will post the pictures in this thread.
I am not sure of the number of tubers; I will ask the garden keeper about it.
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Dinesh

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Alka Khare

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May 9, 2018, 11:58:56 PM5/9/18
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Hello Dinesh

When I had visited the garden, I was told that this was the 'Coffee Cup' cultivar, since the leaves were shaped like a cup. When you poured water on a leaf, it would tilt due to the weight of water and the water would pour out just like from a cup.

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Alka Khare


On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 8:46:26 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:
Pudji ji, I do not have pictures of upper surface of leaf; but I will surely get it when I visit the garden again. I will post the pictures in this thread.
I am not sure of the number of tubers; I will ask the garden keeper about it.
Regards.
Dinesh
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Pudji Widodo <pudji...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sirs,

Could you show me the upper surface of the leaves please.  Or how many tubers are there per individual plant.  These are the keys for identification. Thank you.

Pudji

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J.M. Garg

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May 10, 2018, 12:31:12 AM5/10/18
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Thanks, Alka ji, for an important feedback. 

Dinesh Valke

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May 10, 2018, 2:48:32 AM5/10/18
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Thank you very much Alka ji for the etymological information of the cultivar name.
Regards.
Dinesh

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Thanks, Alka ji, for an important feedback. 
On Thu 10 May, 2018, 9:28 AM Alka Khare, <alk...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Dinesh

When I had visited the garden, I was told that this was the 'Coffee Cup' cultivar, since the leaves were shaped like a cup. When you poured water on a leaf, it would tilt due to the weight of water and the water would pour out just like from a cup.

Regards
Alka Khare

On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 8:46:26 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:
Pudji ji, I do not have pictures of upper surface of leaf; but I will surely get it when I visit the garden again. I will post the pictures in this thread.
I am not sure of the number of tubers; I will ask the garden keeper about it.
Regards.
Dinesh

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Pudji Widodo <pudji...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sirs,

Could you show me the upper surface of the leaves please.  Or how many tubers are there per individual plant.  These are the keys for identification. Thank you.

Pudji

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Dinesh Valke

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May 12, 2018, 7:45:22 AM5/12/18
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Dear Pudji ji, ... hopefully these pictures help in seeing upper surface of the leaves. The gardener is not aware of the number of tubers for a plant. I believe the ID is correct. OR do you think there is any other species close to this one ?


Dattaji Salvi Udyan
Dattaji Salvi Udyan  Thane
Date: May 10, 2018 ... Altitude: about 11 m (36 feet) asl

Colocasia esculenta 'Coffee Cups'  
Colocasia esculenta (L.) Schott 'Coffee Cups'

Colocasia esculenta (L.) Schott 'Coffee Cups'

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Dinesh

Pudji Widodo

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May 13, 2018, 6:17:39 AM5/13/18
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Dear Dinesh Ji,

Colocasia esculenta is very tricky.  
If the leaf intramarginal vein is not clear, leaf upper surface is very waxy then it is C. esculenta
If  the leaf intramarginal vein is clear, leaf upper surface is slightly waxy then it is Xanthosoma sagittifolium
If it has only one tuber, then it is C. esculenta
If it has many tubers, then it is X. sagittifolium.
I send you a picture for comparison.


Pudji Widodo
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA
Colo_Xanth.jpg

Pudji Widodo

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May 13, 2018, 6:27:59 AM5/13/18
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I think your picture resembles my Xanthosoma.
Xanthosoma_sagitifolium_20180513.JPG
Colocasia_esculenta_20180513.JPG

Dinesh Valke

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May 13, 2018, 10:00:46 AM5/13/18
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Many amny thanks Pudji ji for validation.
My posted plant - to me is different from your plant - mainly your plant leaf has negligible "cup" shape, the leaves are relatively large too.
About waxy - yes my posted plant does have waxy texture; also I do not see clear, pronounced intra-marginal vein in my plant - which if I am not mistaking runs along the leaf margin.
Regards.
Dinesh

Gurcharan Singh

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Gurcharan Singh

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J.M. Garg

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Dinesh Valke

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Apr 26, 2021, 9:16:41 AM4/26/21
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Many thanks Gurcharan ji for resurfacing the post for validation of ID.
Thanks very much Garg ji for validating the ID.
Regards.
Dinesh
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