SK 3016 05 October 2021

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 5, 2021, 7:04:37 AM10/5/21
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Dear Members,

Location:Jumla, West Nepal
Altitude:  2153m.
Date: 17 August 2021 
Habit : Wild 
Lamiaceaec.... ???

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 5, 2021, 7:05:02 AM10/5/21
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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 4:49 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you.

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Oct 5, 2021, 7:05:09 AM10/5/21
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Thank you.

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On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 4:49 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 5, 2021, 7:06:14 AM10/5/21
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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 5, 2021, 7:06:25 AM10/5/21
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Thank you.

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Oct 5, 2021, 7:06:58 AM10/5/21
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Thank you.

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 11, 2021, 7:08:53 AM10/11/21
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Oct 11, 2021, 11:39:27 AM10/11/21
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Resembles Teucrium,
With regards. 



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J.M. Garg

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Oct 18, 2021, 2:43:31 AM10/18/21
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Thanks, Paradesi ji.
I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein.
Maybe some other genus.

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Oct 18, 2021, 2:45:31 AM10/18/21
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Thanks, Paradesi ji.
I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein.
Maybe some other genus.

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Oct 18, 2021, 2:45:58 AM10/18/21
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Thanks, Paradesi ji.
I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein.
Maybe some other genus.

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Oct 18, 2021, 2:59:09 AM10/18/21
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Some Buddlejaceae /Loganiaceae members also looks like this. Please check that too.
Sampath Kumar

Thanks a lot, Sampath ji.


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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 18, 2021, 3:33:57 AM10/18/21
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Thank you Sampath Ji,
I checked all Loganiaceae from Nepal but could not find a match.
I guess it should be from lamiaceae!

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Oct 24, 2021, 4:01:43 AM10/24/21
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Resembles Teucrium- from Paradesi ji 

I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein.

Maybe some other genus.- from me 

Some Buddlejaceae /Loganiaceae members also looks like this. Please check that too.

Sampath Kumar 

I checked all Loganiaceae from Nepal but could not find a match.
I guess it should be from lamiaceae!
Saroj Kasaju
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 31, 2021, 5:24:55 AM10/31/21
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Resembles Teucrium- from Paradesi ji 

I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein.

Maybe some other genus.- from me 

Some Buddlejaceae /Loganiaceae members also looks like this. Please check that too.

Sampath Kumar 

I checked all Loganiaceae from Nepal but could not find a match.
I guess it should be from lamiaceae!
Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 31, 2021, 5:58:47 AM10/31/21
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Thanks, Rawat ji

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On Sun, 31 Oct, 2021, 2:55 pm J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Resembles Teucrium- from Paradesi ji 

I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein.

Maybe some other genus.- from me 

Some Buddlejaceae /Loganiaceae members also looks like this. Please check that too.

Sampath Kumar 

I checked all Loganiaceae from Nepal but could not find a match.
I guess it should be from lamiaceae!
Saroj Kasaju
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 9, 2021, 12:26:36 AM11/9/21
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Thanks a lot, Rawat ji, for the id.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 9, 2021, 4:00:59 AM11/9/21
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Thank you Rawat Ji for the lead!
Request for further opinion.
Mentha longifolia subsp. hymalaiensis is not found listed in Nepal.
However, Mentha longifolia is listed in the Book of Karnali.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Nov 15, 2021, 7:18:47 AM11/15/21
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There is a lot of taxonomic confusion between the two. 
As per keys in Flora of Pakistan
4 (3) Leaves sessile or almost so 4 Mentha longifolia
+Leaves with a 2-8 (-15) mm petiole (5)    
5 (4) Calyx 3-4 mm; stem and leaves with a thin indumentum; plants sterile 3 Mentha X piperita
+Calyx 1.5-2 mm; stem and leaves with a prominent indumentum; plants fertile 5 Mentha royleana

I can see the petiole in your images. So it should be Mentha royleana (syn. of Mentha longifolia subsp. hymalaiensis)
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Saroj Kasaju

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Dec 1, 2021, 9:58:07 AM12/1/21
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POWO and GBIF says M. longifolia subsp. hymalaiensis  and M. royleana are 
different and bot not having dustributon in Nepal.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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