Helicteres isora from Chhattisgarh

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Pankaj Oudhia

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Aug 2, 2010, 12:39:38 PM8/2/10
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Dear Group Members,

   Today I was in forest and here are some pictures I have taken in forest of Raipur district.


My recent work on Helicteres isora

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&q=+site%3Awww.pankajoudhia.com+helicteres+oudhia&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=+site%3Awww.pankajoudhia.com+helicteres+oudhia&gs_rfai=&fp=b4b5d6f409ffda9b

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tanay bose

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Aug 5, 2010, 2:18:58 AM8/5/10
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Never obseved the plant before but only seen in books
Thanks to u
tanay

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Bhatt Sweta

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Aug 5, 2010, 8:45:17 AM8/5/10
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Also known as 'Mardasing'. The fruits are helpful in curing Diarrhoea

Pankaj Oudhia

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Aug 5, 2010, 9:52:54 AM8/5/10
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Yes, Shewta ji but more specifically Diarrhoea with crampy pain which is known as Marod in Hindi (In Homoeopathy Mag.Phos. is good remedy for such pain). This is the reason one of its names is Marodphali.  मरोड़    is also known as  ऐंठन  . Thats why Aithi or Aithi Murri is also its local name. Its promising use in treatment of type II Diabetes has given it one more local name i.e. Atayan. Its fruit says everything from its appearance.

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Dinesh Valke

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Aug 5, 2010, 10:01:15 AM8/5/10
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... faintly recollect that gripe water (fed to infants) has ingredients of H. isora ... may be mistaking.
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tanay bose

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Aug 5, 2010, 10:03:09 AM8/5/10
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New fact for me as when I had gripe water I bit  uneducated and too small to know the ingredients.
Tanay

Pankaj Oudhia

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Aug 5, 2010, 10:08:00 AM8/5/10
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Agreed with Tanay and as you know, I am still bachelor and waiting for my chance to give gripe water to my kids. ;)

Ajwain is added in homemade gripe (?) water commonly used in urban areas. Not sure about Helicteres.

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Pankaj Kumar

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Aug 5, 2010, 10:33:30 AM8/5/10
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Thats very interesting Dinesh sir. I thought it would be poisonous for
feeding to babies, but seems you are right. For Oudhia sir, I wish you
get marred soon and have some babies to feed gripe water too...... :).
For you I am adding some pics of Helicteres isora in flowers.
Hope you will like them.
Regards
Pankaj


On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <pankaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Agreed with Tanay and as you know, I am still bachelor and waiting for my
> chance to give gripe water to my kids. ;)
>
> Ajwain is added in homemade gripe (?) water commonly used in urban areas.
> Not sure about Helicteres.
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:33 PM, tanay bose <tanay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> New fact for me as when I had gripe water I bit  uneducated and too small
>> to know the ingredients.
>> Tanay
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ... faintly recollect that gripe water (fed to infants) has ingredients
>>> of H. isora ... may be mistaking.
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <pankaj...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Shewta ji but more specifically Diarrhoea with crampy pain which is
>>>> known as Marod in Hindi (In Homoeopathy Mag.Phos. is good remedy for such

>>>> pain). This is the reason one of its names is Marodphali.  मरोड़    is also

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Gurcharan Singh

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Aug 5, 2010, 10:36:01 AM8/5/10
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I don;t know how this information from "The Useful Plants of India"  should be interpreted: "Fruits used in intestinal complaints, such as colic, diarrhoea, chronic dysentery and flattulence, and to improve appetite; but the investigations have shown that there is hardly any benefit. Juice of roots is beneficial in empyema and stomach affections".


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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
 

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <pankaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed with Tanay and as you know, I am still bachelor and waiting for my chance to give gripe water to my kids. ;)

Ajwain is added in homemade gripe (?) water commonly used in urban areas. Not sure about Helicteres.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:33 PM, tanay bose <tanay...@gmail.com> wrote:
New fact for me as when I had gripe water I bit  uneducated and too small to know the ingredients.
Tanay

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
... faintly recollect that gripe water (fed to infants) has ingredients of H. isora ... may be mistaking.
Regards.
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <pankaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, Shewta ji but more specifically Diarrhoea with crampy pain which is known as Marod in Hindi (In Homoeopathy Mag.Phos. is good remedy for such pain). This is the reason one of its names is Marodphali.  मरोड़    is also known as  ऐंठन  . Thats why Aithi or Aithi Murri is also its local name. Its promising use in treatment of type II Diabetes has given it one more local name i.e. Atayan. Its fruit says everything from its appearance.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia


On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Bhatt Sweta <bhatt...@gmail.com> wrote:
Also known as 'Mardasing'. The fruits are helpful in curing Diarrhoea


On 8/5/10, tanay bose <tanay...@gmail.com> wrote:
Never obseved the plant before but only seen in books
Thanks to u
tanay

 
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <pankaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Group Members,

   Today I was in forest and here are some pictures I have taken in forest of Raipur district.


My recent work on Helicteres isora

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&q=+site%3Awww.pankajoudhia.com+helicteres+oudhia&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=+site%3Awww.pankajoudhia.com+helicteres+oudhia&gs_rfai=&fp=b4b5d6f409ffda9b

regards

Pankaj Oudhia



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Pankaj Oudhia

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Aug 5, 2010, 2:07:25 PM8/5/10
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Thanks Gurcharan ji. The lines from "The useful plants of India" are lacking the info on Methods through which Helicteres has been tried. In Chhattisgarh I have documented hundreds of Helicteres based formulations. I am sure that there are thousands of formulations in existence in other parts of India.

From the book's quote it seems that Helicteres is not at all useful plant for stomach complaints which is not true. It is like irresponsible quote from so-called standard literature. It seems that compilers are not in touch with ground realities.


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Pankaj Oudhia

Pankaj Kumar

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Aug 5, 2010, 2:23:45 PM8/5/10
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Dear Oudhia Sir,
Sometimes people do interpret things in a wrong way. Researchers and
scientists at times dont approach the right people in a right manner
and what they get in return is negativity. Tribals dont reveal
anything. Then there are times, when people dont believe in what those
tribals are using to be relevant, so it doesnt affect them.
Just for instance, if a bark of a tree is used, tribals make a cut on
the trunk and collect the bark from the upper side of the cut mark and
not from the lower side. Some plants needs to be collected at a
particular time of the day, even like on fullmoon night....all these
have scientific and physiological basis which really alters the
efficacy of any herbal medicine.
So, CHEER UP, infact I would encourage you to come up with Modern
Flora Medica of your own in few years.
Thanks for sharing all the info that you have been on the group. They
are useful and that makes us understand that plants around us are
useful too.
Regards
Pankaj

Pankaj Oudhia

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Aug 5, 2010, 2:34:46 PM8/5/10
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Thanks but it seems that I have to take another birth for Modern Flora Medica as this life will be over in completing three reports.

First, the on-going report on Type II Diabetes. After all efforts I have made mere  + 5 million pages online i.e. nearly 20 GB. The complete report is of plus 1 TB.

Second, over 35,000 formulations on cancer. I have written preliminary information about 1200 formulations so far.

Third, the report on heart diseases which is far more than above mentioned reports.

  regards

Pankaj Oudhia

Pankaj Kumar

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Aug 5, 2010, 3:05:02 PM8/5/10
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Oh....thats really impressive....I cant express my respect and
admiration for you in words.....but...hats off to you for your
achievements...
Pankaj

Gurcharan Singh

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Aug 5, 2010, 3:15:51 PM8/5/10
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Pankaj Oudhia ji
I think you are not realizing. You are already compiling Modern Flora (read Materia) Medica, by publishing so much useful information on the web. Perhaps you won't know when some one will tell you one day (not far away): "You have completed your Modern Materia Medica". Our best wishes are with you.


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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Pankaj Oudhia

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Aug 5, 2010, 3:55:30 PM8/5/10
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Hmmmm!!! You are right. Thanks for making me aware.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia
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