Paeonia suffruticosa : Srinagar : For Validation : 02JUN19 : AK-1

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Aarti S. Khale

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Jun 2, 2019, 11:37:18 AM6/2/19
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Tree Peony seen in Srinagar.
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Tree Peony,Jawaharlal Nehru Botanical Garden,Srinagar-IMG_2682.JPG
Tree Peony,Jawaharlal Nehru Botanical Garden,Srinagar-IMG_2642.JPG
Tree Peony,Jawaharlal Nehru Botanical Garden,Srinagar-IMG_2643.JPG
Tree Peony,Plant Introduction Centre,Srinagar-IMG_2831.JPG
Tree Peony,Plant Introduction Centre,Srinagar-IMG_2808.JPG
Tree Peony,Plant Introduction Centre,Srinagar-IMG_2832.JPG
Tree Peony,Plant Introduction Centre,Srinagar-P1110799.JPG

Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 2, 2019, 11:55:08 AM6/2/19
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Yes Aarti ji

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Aarti S. Khale

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Jun 2, 2019, 12:10:42 PM6/2/19
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Gurcharan Ji,
Thanks for validating.
Regards,
Aarti

J.M. Garg

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Jun 10, 2019, 7:55:19 AM6/10/19
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Thanks, Singh ji.
Similar plants were earlier identified as Paeonia officinalis (as per images herein) except for the last image, which appears to be woody.


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J.M. Garg

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Jun 10, 2019, 8:08:27 AM6/10/19
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I did not find mention of Paeonia officinalis in the eFloras site.

Both these are described in Flora of China as per

Are the herbaceous images by Aarti ji (except last one) and in efi site at Paeonia officinalis are of Paeonia lactiflora ?

Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 10, 2019, 12:42:18 PM6/10/19
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Interestingly we knew about P. officinalis as popular herbaceous species for a long time, known as Common Garden paeony, and now Cottage Garden Paeony. In fact Bailey manual describes this only not P. lactiflora, the Chinese Paeony has become popular only recently and has overtaken P. officinalis in most gardens, that is why most P. officinalis get marked as lactiflora. Original P. lactiflora used in Chinese medicine had white flowers but now all colours, single and double have been developed. Here is how both can be differentiated:
Paeonia officinalis: Flowers mostly in may in temperate climate, edges of leaves/segments entire, carpels as well as fruits tomentose.
P. lactiflora: Flowers mostly in June in Temperate climate, edges of leaves/segments  denticulate, carpels and fruits glabrous.
Here is my P. officinalis 'Flore Plena' from Kashmir on  May 16, 2012

    
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Paeonia officinalis 'Rosea Plena'-Cheshmashahi-IMG_4788-Kashmir-1.jpg
Paeonia officinalis 'Rosea Plena'-Cheshmashahi-IMG_4791-Kashmir-2.jpg

Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 10, 2019, 1:23:43 PM6/10/19
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And yes flowers of P. lactiflora are scented, P. officinalis not scented.

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J.M. Garg

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Jun 11, 2019, 12:28:24 AM6/11/19
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Thanks, Singh ji 

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J.M. Garg

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Jun 21, 2019, 2:11:52 AM6/21/19
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Hi, Singh ji and Aarti ji,
I tried to understand, but seems still confused.
I could not check denticulate nature of edges of the leaves with naked eyes even in the following

Does all the images above by Aarti ji, belong to tree like shrubs as in the last image ?
Are all of these images belong to Paeonia suffruticosa as per

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Tree Peony,Jawaharlal Nehru Botanical Garden,Srinagar-IMG_2682.JPG
Tree Peony,Jawaharlal Nehru Botanical Garden,Srinagar-IMG_2642.JPG
Tree Peony,Jawaharlal Nehru Botanical Garden,Srinagar-IMG_2643.JPG
Tree Peony,Plant Introduction Centre,Srinagar-IMG_2831.JPG
Tree Peony,Plant Introduction Centre,Srinagar-IMG_2808.JPG
Tree Peony,Plant Introduction Centre,Srinagar-IMG_2832.JPG
Tree Peony,Plant Introduction Centre,Srinagar-P1110799.JPG

Aarti S. Khale

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Jun 22, 2019, 6:21:31 AM6/22/19
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Garg Ji,
Yes as far as I can remember these were shrubs and not plants.
Regards,
Aarti
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