SK841 31 OCT-2017:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location:  Kalimati, Kathmandu, Nepal

Date: 4 October 2017

Elevation : 4400 ft.

Thank You.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Saroj ji. 

[Saroj Kasaju]

Any clue about the ID ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Difficult for me with these images. 

[Saroj Kasaju]

Yes. Just gave a try !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Tinospora cordifolia ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Tinospora sinensis is also possible. Pl. check the keys herein.

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Saroj ji,

What do you think ?

[ushadi]

not t. cordifolia

 leaf looks different

I have it growing right now

Regards

Ushadi

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[Saroj Kasaju]

ACFPN has given elevation range of  300-500 m for T, sinensis whereas no mention

for T. cordifolia and it looks like leaf pattern is more close to T. cordifolia according to the POWO!

Tinospora cordifolia (Willd.) Hook.f. & Thomson

Tinospora sinensis (Lour.) Merr.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[ushadi]

elevation does not matter right now

now a days

the physical structure does

Regards

Ushadi

[J.M. Garg]

Flora of Bhutan gives for T.cordifolia- Sikkim: Darjeeling Terai (Punkabari). Subtropical and terai forests, 150m. February.

For T. sunensis, it gives as Sikkim: Mungpoo (34). Subtropical forests. February-May.

I searched and found Mungpoo to be at a height at 3700 ft.

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[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

I will say this is Tinospora cordifolia.

T. sinensis has puberulent leaves and stem which I dont see in the pics.

Nepal has only two species so far.

Thanks and regards

Pankaj

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Pankaj ji.

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[dr.rakesh Singh]

We had a discussion on same species few day earlier too ........after that I checked species available in 

my area(T. cordifolia) and found they have no hair whatsoever anywhere on plant .

 Presence of hair on tender shoots/branches and 

leaves is said to be the distinguishing character of T. sinensis in field . 

On zooming in  first image , fine hairs can be seen on margin of drying leaf in left upper corner . In other two , the white substance seen 

on surface is nothing but matted hairs with trapped fine dust after getting drenched by rains .  

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[J.M. Garg]

Wao!!! What a close observation!!!

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[Pankaj Kumar]

I think he is right. On zooming in I do see hairs on the petiole. Hairs are not just present in early stages but can be seen  in mature stage too. One best way is (IF YOU WISH) lick the stem and leaf and you can feel the invisible hairs on your tongue.

Thanks for correcting.

Pankaj

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Pankaj ji.

[Mahadeswara]

Are there any eco-types  with variations in leaves?      T.cordifolia is grown i commonly in houses and I have not seen plant with  leaves as seen i  the ppresent photograph(s).That is why  I need clarification. 

[Mahadeswara]

Sorry,  mistake in the posting.  It should be  'T.cordifolia is grown  commonly in houses and I have not seen plant with  leaves as seen  in the present photograph(s).That is why  I need clarification'. 

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Mahadeswara ji, 
It has been identified as Tinospora sinensis. 

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Then it is fine.