Salvia-moorcroftiana-macrosiphon-sclarea from Kashmir: two plants and three species-part2

[Gurcharan Singh]

This is the second plant which on the basis of leaves I would confortably place with S. sclarea (or may be S. macrosiphon) but membranous bracts are lacking. The leaves are broadly ovate-cordate reaching 25 cm in width, corolla is white with tube slightly exceeding calyx. Photographed from Baramula on June 24, 2010.
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[Nayan Singh]

Nice pictures and great work Gurcharan ji, thanks for sharing.

Nayan

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From: Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com>
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>; Flowers of India <flowers...@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 23 August, 2010 8:24:00 AM
Subject: [efloraofindia:45180] Salvia-moorcroftiana-macrosiphon-sclarea from Kashmir: two plants and three species-part2

[tanay bose]

I think this is Salvia macrosiphon

Tanay

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[Gurcharan Singh]

The only problem Tanay is that Corolla tube is Macrosiphon is much slender and longer.

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Gurcharan Singh]

A link for S. macrosiphon

http://www.robinssalvias.com/blue/htms/macrosiphon.htm

and some for S. sclarea

http://www.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.londonherbalist.com/USERIMAGES/Salvia%2520sclarea.jpg&imgrefurl=http://londonherbalist.com/page5.htm&usg=__Gbthn0WY9Kl2yQCvOVOLiN83XxA=&h=1200&w=900&sz=296&hl=en&start=0&sig2=-rk1w7tBw5qpZ2g5TGIoLg&zoom=1&tbnid=nOsJlH0BtYNc_M:&tbnh=159&tbnw=113&ei=hPxxTL3ULI3EvQOs0LFB&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSalvia%2Bsclarea%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D673%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=364&vpy=126&dur=49&hovh=193&hovw=144&tx=107&ty=109&oei=hPxxTL3ULI3EvQOs0LFB&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

http://luirig.altervista.org/schedeit/pz/salvia_sclarea.htm

http://www.scu.edu.au/garden/gfx/plants/S_sclarea.jpg

http://www.anniesannuals.com/signs/s/salvia_sclaria_var_turkestanica_A.htm

http://fotobank.ru/image/FL00-4932.html

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[tanay bose]

May be I am wrong or this is ecotype.

tanay

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.

Earlier relevant feedback:

“I think this is Salvia macrosiphon
Tanay”

 

“The only problem Tanay is that Corolla tube is macrosiphon is much slender and longer.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

“A link for S. macrosiphon

http://www.robinssalvias.com/blue/htms/macrosiphon.htm

and some for S. sclarea

http://www.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.londonherbalist.com/USERIMAGES/Salvia%2520sclarea.jpg&imgrefurl=http://londonherbalist.com/page5.htm&usg=__Gbthn0WY9Kl2yQCvOVOLiN83XxA=&h=1200&w=900&sz=296&hl=en&start=0&sig2=-rk1w7tBw5qpZ2g5TGIoLg&zoom=1&tbnid=nOsJlH0BtYNc_M:&tbnh=159&tbnw=113&ei=hPxxTL3ULI3EvQOs0LFB&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSalvia%2Bsclarea%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D673%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=364&vpy=126&dur=49&hovh=193&hovw=144&tx=107&ty=109&oei=hPxxTL3ULI3EvQOs0LFB&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

 

http://luirig.altervista.org/schedeit/pz/salvia_sclarea.htm

 

http://www.scu.edu.au/garden/gfx/plants/S_sclarea.jpg

http://www.anniesannuals.com/signs/s/salvia_sclaria_var_turkestanica_A.htm

http://fotobank.ru/image/FL00-4932.html

 

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"May be I am wrong or this is ecotype.
tanay"

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Date: 23 August 2010 08:24
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[Tabish]

From the only a little amount the flower tube is protruding out of the
sepal cup, I would think this is Salvia sclarea. I have no experience
with S. macrosiphon, so cannot comment on it. S. moorcroftiana flowers
protrude out of the sepal cup more than this. Also, bracts in Salvia
sclarea are supposed to be nearly as long as the flowers, which agrees
with the pics of the white flowers here. White color is consistent
with Salvia sclarea. Haven't compared other aspects.
- Tabish

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[Gurcharan Singh]

I also go with S. sclarea finally

http://www.flickr.com/photos/youkali/548180300/

http://fotobank.ru/image/FL00-4932.html

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_g7OTD4nHkjk/TDJ9f2sloSI/AAAAAAAAEEM/0gPG_H8dliw/s1600/Salvia+sclarea+in+bud+061810.JPG

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/