21072025 SD03 Plant ID

[somil...@gmail.com]

Kindly confirm if this is endemic Pavonia arabica var. massuriensis, or is it simply Pavonia arabica?

Found in Jodhpur

Thanks

[Saroj Kasaju]

Pavonia arabica Hochst. ex Steud.

All others are syn. : https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:562754-1

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[somil...@gmail.com]

Thanks saroj ji. I did some more digging and saw that this plant was re-discovered by BSI in 2017-18. aHere's a link to BSI's rediscovery of it, on page 20-21 of this PDF: https://bsi.gov.in/uploads/documents/ScientificMeeting/english/Dr_RAMESH%20KUMAR%20AZRC.pdf

Also, a link to an HT article about this species: https://www.hindustantimes.com/jaipur/scientists-rediscover-extinct-plant-species-in-jodhpur/story-wo6O3ankyS0NcxixY7t5lJ.html

Perhaps it needs a closer inspection to deem it as a subspecies? Would POWO have looked into these recent re-discoveries?

Thank you

Somil

[Saroj Kasaju]

OK Dr. Daga,

Maybe it needs to be corrected in all databases as all of them show the same data.

https://www.gbif.org/species/7549950

https://www.gbif.org/species/7549950

Only IPNI is different.

https://www.ipni.org/n/562754-1

https://www.ipni.org/n/77208300-1

https://www.ipni.org/n/886638-1

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Somil Daga]

Thank you sir. I am not a scientist and I don't understand how taxonomy is finally decided. I'm only trying to see if the plant we came across is Pavonia arabica or its endemic subspecies, for purposes of collecting seeds, growing them and planting them in Rao Jodha Park, and spreading awareness amongst visitors. If it is indeed the endemic species, we also want to try and conserve it and increase its population in the rocky areas of Jodhpur. 

Many thanks

Somil

[Somil Daga]

And if it's not the endemic species, then I hope BSI declares that as well, that their paper from 2017-18 is not valid anymore. So that lay people like me can get the right information.

[Saroj Kasaju]

Same here as well.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Somil ji,

It was just a variety with very minor differences from the original one (and not a subspecies).

Current POWO considers it just a syn. of Pavonia arabica Hochst. & Steud. ex Boiss.

So we should follow this.

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