262 ID wild tree

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jan 28, 2022, 12:09:22 PM1/28/22

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Dear Members,

Please ID wild tree, kind regards, Sam.

Location: near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki Dist. Kerala PIN:685607

Altitude: 1500fsl

Flower date: 24.01.2022, 01.10pm

Habitat: wild, moisture, riverside

Plant habit: tree, erect, branches, hard woody stem 40 inches circumference, long lasting

Height: 12 meters

Leaves: alternate, ovate, oblong, apex, size:25×10cm

Flower: diameter:13mm, green, non fragrant

Fruit:

Seed:

Camera: Canon EOS1500D

262 Identify wild plant

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jan 28, 2022, 12:12:35 PM1/28/22

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Sharing more images

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jan 28, 2022, 12:24:43 PM1/28/22

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Sharing more images

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jan 28, 2022, 12:28:25 PM1/28/22

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Sharing an image

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 28, 2022, 8:20:11 PM1/28/22

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Try comparative images at Annonaceae.

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jan 28, 2022, 11:51:12 PM1/28/22

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Dear Garg ji,

It is something close to Monoon simiarum, with kind regards, Sam.

girish kumar ellezhuthil

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Jan 29, 2022, 3:35:06 AM1/29/22

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Polyalthia malabaricum..........only a guessing

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jan 30, 2022, 8:55:44 AM1/30/22

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Dear Girish ji,

Thank you very much for ID suggestion, not it is. I have also images of Polyalthia malabarica, waiting for its fruits, here it is very small tree 05 feet height and 04 inch base circumference in shady habitat. Please check my image and screenshots, with kind regards, Sam.

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J.M. Garg

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Feb 3, 2022, 4:07:45 AM2/3/22

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Can it be Polyalthia shendurunii as per Biotik ?

Looks different from images at Monoon simiarum

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J.M. Garg

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Feb 3, 2022, 4:08:14 AM2/3/22

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I checked all the species listed in Flora of peninsular India under Polyalthia.
Closest I could is Polyalthia shendurunii as per Biotik

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J.M. Garg

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Feb 3, 2022, 4:09:58 AM2/3/22

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Can it be Polyalthia shendurunii as per Biotik ?

Looks different from images at Monoon simiarum

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Can it be Polyalthia shendurunii as per Biotik ?

Looks different from images at Monoon simiarum

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Feb 3, 2022, 9:25:19 AM2/3/22

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It may be Polyalthia shendurunii, dear Garg ji, bark of my tree seemed to be rough (expansion?), not smooth or glossy. Monoon simiarum is my suggestion only, thank you very much for ID my plant, with kind regards, Sam.

Mahadeswara

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Please check this link : http://keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Polyalthia_shendurunii

J.M. Garg

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Feb 6, 2022, 9:36:22 AM2/6/22

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Thanks, Navendu ji.
Hi, Sam ji,

Pl. try to take more and better images.

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Dear Garg Sir,

I can't confirm based on these images but P. simiarum is not reported from Western Ghats

It could be Polyalthia fragrans or P. shendurunii or P. tirunelveliensis

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Navendu

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Hi, Navendu ji,
May I request you to confirm or otherwise pl.

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Feb 7, 2022, 1:51:08 AM2/7/22

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Dear Navendu ji,

Thank you very much for sharing the information, I would be waiting for it's fruit images, with kind regards, Sam.

Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Jul 10, 2025, 3:05:16 AMJul 10

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Huberantha korinti (Dunal) Chaowasku

Syn : Hubera korinti (Dunal) Chaowasku

Polyalthia korinti (Dunal) Thwaites

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 10, 2025, 3:13:17 AMJul 10

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Please ignore the earlier mail.

This looks like Polyalthia shendurunii Basha & Sasidh. : https://www.gbif.org/species/3648922

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Findiabiodiversity.org%2Fspecies%2Fshow%2F17413&psig=AOvVaw14IcbEl8np-K5kXeONuDXW&ust=1752217741732000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBQQjRxqFwoTCND-0cvesY4DFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

https://www.google.com/imgres?q=%C2%A0%0D%0APolyalthia%20shendurunii&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biotik.org%2Findia%2Fspecies%2Fp%2Fpolyshen%2Fpolyshen_02.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biotik.org%2Findia%2Fspecies%2Fp%2Fpolyshen%2Fpolyshen_02_en.html&docid=Wh-aes_0zHHC4M&tbnid=-4dM7sQo-KyK7M&vet=12ahUKEwi7pOXw3bGOAxU1w6ACHUBdJoQQM3oECDcQAA..i&w=900&h=600&hcb=2&itg=1&ved=2ahUKEwi7pOXw3bGOAxU1w6ACHUBdJoQQM3oECDcQAA

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Jul 10, 2025, 12:38:56 PMJul 10

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Dear Saroj ji,

Yes, it is Polyalthia shendurunii, thank you very much for ID my tree.

Kind regards, Sam.

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 10, 2025, 11:40:55 PMJul 10

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OK Sam.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 11, 2025, 12:20:07 AMJul 11

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I think it's difficult to confirm the species of this plant based on the images taken by Sam. The image of the flower

provided is that of an immature flower and hence cant be conclusive. We need images of the fruits to narrow down our options further.

Also, Monoon shendurunii so far seems to be restricted to Agasthyamala region, and is known only from Shendurney wildlife sanctuary. It is not yet reported from Idukki, although other species like fragrans, coffeoides are distributed there.

All the species of this genus look more or less similar with only subtle differences in flower position and shape of the fruitlet.

I am not saying that it cannot be M. shendurunii, just saying that we dont have sufficient information to narrow it down to this species and that its equally likely to be any of the other species in the genus from the Western Ghats

Hence its better to keep this as Monoon sp and wait until we have more information.

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Jul 11, 2025, 1:23:52 AMJul 11

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Thanks a lot, Navendu ji

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jul 11, 2025, 4:23:57 AMJul 11

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Dear Navendu ji,

Thank you very much for the detailed explanations. I am documented a tree from another location with flowers having all petals which is close to Polyalthia shendurunii that Saroj ji valuated and it's images could be provided shortly.

Kind regards, Sam.

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jul 12, 2025, 2:17:52 PMJul 12

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Dear Garg ji, Saroj ji, Navendu ji,

Please validate ID request #685

https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/feCnrf2_CT4

Kind regards, Sam.

navendu page

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Jul 12, 2025, 9:36:07 PMJul 12

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This is in most likelihood, Monoon fragrans. Fruits would help to confirm.

Best

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 12, 2025, 11:49:02 PMJul 12

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I guess Navendu ji is right : Polyalthia fragrans (Dalzell) Hook.f. & Thomson

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jul 13, 2025, 3:05:03 AMJul 13

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Yes, it is Polyalthia fragrans, dear Navendu ji, thank you very much for ID my tree, with kind regards, Sam.

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Jul 13, 2025, 3:06:12 AMJul 13

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Yes, it is Polyalthia fragrans, dear Saroj ji.

Thank you very much for the ID confirmation of my tree.

With kind regards, Sam.

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 13, 2025, 3:21:16 AMJul 13

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OK Sam.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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