Veronica stewartii from Kashmir

[Gurcharan Singh]

Pennell who published revision of Scrophulariaceae of Western Himalayas in 1943, ignored V. agrestis but listed V. didyma, also did not record V. hederaefolia from Himalayas:.

V. didyma (syn V. polita Fries): leaves longer than broad, oval to lanceolate, dentate, corolla pale violet with darker veins in posterior lobe, capsule flattened, notched., 
V. stewartii: leaves broader than long, shallowly 3-lobed, sepals ovate acuminate,pedicels 2-4 mm long much shorter than petioles (10-15 mm long) capsule turgid, rounded or slightly notched at apex.(V. hederaefolia Europaen species with 5-lobed leaves, pedicels much longer than petioles, equalling or longer than subtending leaf),

This is image of Herbarium sheet for comparison.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Mob: 9810359089

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Singh ji 

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear David Merrick

It will really help if you could forward description (and possibly key separating the three species) of Veronica polita and V. agrestis, both of which also occur in Europe. It may help in sorting our specimens. V. stewartii which Pennell described as new species in 1943, replacing hitherto known Himalayan specimens of V. hederifolia, is quite distinct, as can be seen from herbarium image I uploaded separately today.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Mob: 9810359089

http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 7:58 PM David Merrick <meteo...@paintdrawer.co.uk> wrote:

For reference I've attached a description of V. hederifolia as found in UK flora here, from Sell & Murrell Flora of Great Britain and Ireland vol 3. There are 2 subspecies here in the UK, I'm not sure what subspecies may lie further afield across the continents or indeed similar veronica.

David (Edinburgh)

0131 333 2170 (try first)
07877 316 592 (try second)

[J.M. Garg]

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For reference I've attached a description of V. hederifolia as found in UK flora here, from Sell & Murrell Flora of Great Britain and Ireland vol 3. There are 2 subspecies here in the UK, I'm not sure what subspecies may lie further afield across the continents or indeed similar veronica.

David (Edinburgh)

0131 333 2170 (try first)
07877 316 592 (try second)

On 2019-03-02 12:48, J.M. Garg wrote:

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 21:02
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:317827] Veronica stewartii from Kashmir
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Thanks a lot dear David, that should help a lot.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Mob: 9810359089

http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 8:47 PM David Merrick <meteo...@paintdrawer.co.uk> wrote:

I've attached descriptions of persica/agrestis/polita from 3 European flora.

Sell3 = Sell & Murrell Flora of Great Britain and Ireland vol 3 (2009)

FBI = Flora of the British Isles ed 3 (Tutin and Clapham) (1989)

FEU = Flora Europaea - slightly older but has a more European embrace.

As you'll have spotted, Sell3 is the most recent.

I've also attached keys from Sell vol 3 and Stace ed 3 (2010). Note that Stace ed 4 has just come out now and probably shouldn't differ in the key. Stace is what Botanists here use and carry about, as it all fits in 1 portable volume by having good keys supplemented by brief descriptions of further characteristics.

And I've attached a visual veronica sheet "veronica-field-speedwells" I made for the Edinburgh facebook botany group using photos from around about, which may assist too but will be just the floristic races that are around me.

David

0131 333 2170 (try first)
07877 316 592 (try second)

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Singh ji,

Should I take this as Veronica stewartii ?

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