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[Farida Abraham]

sending pictures of the chrysanthmums in my garden. Can anyone ID them? FAbraham

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[Pudji Widodo]

Dear Mrs. F. Abraham.

Maybe a cultivar of Dendranthema grandiflora

Pudji Widodo
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
PURWOKERTO INDONESIA

[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID

Earlier feedback

Pudji......................................................Maybe a cultivar of Dendranthema grandiflora

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[ajinkya gadave]

this is chrysanthemum 100%

[Pudji Widodo]

If I am not mistaken
In 1792 Ramat. published Chrysanthemum morifolium Ramat. in Journ. Hist. Nat. Paris ii. 240.  Then in 1978, Kitamura transferred it into Dendranthema grandiflora (Ramat.) Kitam. -- Acta Phytotax. Geobot. 29(6): 165

Regards

Pudji Widodo
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman

PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear Pudji

It is true that Chrysanthemum morifolium Ramat was published by Ramat in 1978. Kitamura in 1978 did not transfer this to genus Dendrathema because, because if he did he had to retain thespecific epithet morifolium. It was in fact Tzelev 1961 (in V. L. Komarov, Fl. URSS 26:373) who formed the combination Dendrathema x morifolium (Ramat) Tzelev, 1961.

      In the same publication Ramat also described Anthemis grandiflora for which Kitamura in 1978 formed the combination Dendranthema x grandiflora (Ramat.) Kitam., 1978.

Now there seems to a little confusion. According to GRIN, a fairly respected database Correct name is Chrysanthemum x morifolium Ramat. and following its synonyms: Anthemis grandiflora Ramat.,  Anthemis stipulacea Moench, Chrysanthemum sinense Sabine, Chrysanthemum stipulaceum (Moench) W. Wight, Dendranthema ×grandiflorum (Ramat.) Kitam. Dendranthema ×morifolium (Ramat.) Tzvelev, Matricaria morifolia Ramat.

However according to new Plant List published by Kew and Missouri Botanical Garden (which is supposed to be fairly authentic), all following are accepted names:

Chrysanthemum morifolium Ramat (syn: Anthemis grandiflora Ramat.; Matricaria morifolia (Ramat.) Ramat.;  

                                Chrysanthemum stipulaceum (Moench) W. Wight, )

Chrysanthemum x grandiflorum Ramat. with no recorded synonyms

Dendranthema ×grandiflorum (Ramat.) Kitam. with no recorded synonyms (this is strange because 

                                                              basionym has to be the synonym)

Dendranthema ×morifolium (Ramat.) Tzvelev with Tanacetum morifolium (Ramat.) Kitam as synonym

Sincerely there is lot of confusion out there

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

   

[Gurcharan Singh]

Please read first line as Ramat in 1792 inplaceof 1978

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/