Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb11 for Id- JM

[J.M. Garg]

Wild Herb captured on 13/8/10 during the trek from Ghangaria (around 11,000 ft.) to Hemkunt Sahib (around 14000 ft.).

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Rumex acetosella, but not very sure.

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[Pankaj Kumar]

Rumex sp.
Pankaj

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

Earlier feedback

Me................................Rumex acetosella, but not very sure

Pankaj ji.......................Rumex sp.

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Ritesh Kumar Choudhary]

Dear all,

Rumex acetosella is characterized by having hastate leaves so that possibility is ruled out here.

To me it looks like Rumex nepalensis only. Here the plant is in flowering stage so the most important character of the plant i.e. presence of fringed fruiting perianth is not visible here.
 
Perusal of various herbarium sheets at Chinese Virtual herbarium at the following link could be of use.

http://photo.cvh.org.cn/pic/kun/36/366765.jpg

Further comments are solicited.

Regards,
Ritesh.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Agreed it is not Rumex acetosella but some how I am not comfortable with R. nepalensis. The first photographs does show some flowers in which the inner perianth is enlarged, but there is no trace of any teeth. I would suggest R. patientia a highly variable species with entire valves.

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Singh ji, Pankaj ji & Ritesh ji.

A link for Rumex patientia (though not mentioned in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin & Adam Stainton):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rumex_X_patientia_Sturm55.jpg

I am unable two decide between R. patientia or R. nepalensis.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Google e-group- Efloraofindia:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1460 members & 55,000 messages on 29/11/10 & with a database of around 4300 species on 31/10/10)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes it is difficult without fruiting specimens.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[jmgarg1]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:      

 

Rumex acetosella is characterized by having hastate leaves so that possibility is ruled out here. To me it looks like Rumex nepalensis only. Here the plant is in flowering stage so the most important character of the plant i.e. presence of fringed fruiting perianth is not visible here.  Perusal of various herbarium sheets at Chinese Virtual herbarium at the following link could be of use. http://photo.cvh.org.cn/pic/kun/36/366765.jpg Further comments are solicited. Regards, Ritesh.

Agreed it is not Rumex acetosella but some how I am not comfortable with R. nepalensis. The first photographs does show some flowers in which the inner perianth is enlarged, but there is no trace of any teeth. I would suggest R. patientia a highly variable species with entire valves.- from Singh ji.

Thanks, Singh ji, Pankaj ji & Ritesh ji. A link for Rumex patientia (though not mentioned in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin & Adam Stainton): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rumex_X_patientia_Sturm55.jpg I am unable two decide between R. patientia or R. nepalensis.

Yes it is difficult without fruiting specimens. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: 14 November 2010 21:11
Subject: Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb11 for Id- JM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1950 members & 1,27,800 messages on 31/8/12) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of more than 7000 species).

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. 

[JM Garg]

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Date: Sunday, November 14, 2010 at 9:11:59 PM UTC+5:30
Subject: Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb11 for Id- JM
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[JM Garg]

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From: JM Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:      

 

Rumex acetosella is characterized by having hastate leaves so that possibility is ruled out here. To me it looks like Rumex nepalensis only. Here the plant is in flowering stage so the most important character of the plant i.e. presence of fringed fruiting perianth is not visible here.  Perusal of various herbarium sheets at Chinese Virtual herbarium at the following link could be of use. http://photo.cvh.org.cn/pic/kun/36/366765.jpg Further comments are solicited. Regards, Ritesh.
Agreed it is not Rumex acetosella but some how I am not comfortable with R. nepalensis. The first photographs does show some flowers in which the inner perianth is enlarged, but there is no trace of any teeth. I would suggest R. patientia a highly variable species with entire valves.- from Singh ji.
Thanks, Singh ji, Pankaj ji & Ritesh ji. A link for Rumex patientia (though not mentioned in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin & Adam Stainton): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rumex_X_patientia_Sturm55.jpg I am unable two decide between R. patientia or R. nepalensis.
Yes it is difficult without fruiting specimens. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 at 21:11
Subject: Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb11 for Id- JM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Rawat ji.

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 16:02, D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com> wrote:

Leaves are quite different from R. nepalensis to me.

Images of R. patentientia in Stainton's Supplement to Flowers of the Himalaya are attached herewith.

DSRawat

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Rawat ji.

Yes, it matches as per images at Koenigia rumicifolia

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From: D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 16:03
Subject: Re: Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb11 for Id- JM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

It also resembles to Koenigia rumicifolia.

DSRawat

On Wed, 23 Feb, 2022, 4:02 pm D.S Rawat, <drdsrawat...@gmail.com> wrote:

Leaves are quite different from R. nepalensis to me.

Images of R. patentientia in Stainton's Supplement to Flowers of the Himalaya are attached herewith.

DSRawat

On Wed, 23 Feb, 2022, 3:33 pm J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Ishwari ji

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From: Dr. Ishwari Rai 
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 17:24
Subject: Re: Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb11 for Id- JM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Garg ji,

In my observations it is Aconogonum rumicifolium.

Regards

Ishwari

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