FOR ID :: Dicots :: The Nilgiris :: Jan 28, 2026 · 8:41 AM IST

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Dinesh Valke

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Feb 8, 2026, 12:18:43 AMFeb 8
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Dicots
The Nilgiris :: Jan 28, 2026 · 8:41 AM IST
along Ooty - Kotagiri Highway, about 2160 m asl

Dicots
Dicots
Dicots
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Dinesh

Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 8, 2026, 12:23:44 AMFeb 8
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Ligustrum lucidum W.T.Aiton

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Saroj Kasaju


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Dinesh Valke

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Feb 8, 2026, 12:52:00 AMFeb 8
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Many many thanks Saroj ji.
Your suggested ID is quite convincing.
I learned from the internet that this is an invasive species in the Nilgiris, native to east Asia.
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Dinesh

Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 8, 2026, 12:54:53 AMFeb 8
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Thank you Dinesh Ji.
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Muthu Karthick

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Feb 9, 2026, 5:47:57 AMFeb 9
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looks more like Ligustrum perrottetii for me

Dinesh Valke

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Feb 9, 2026, 9:08:23 AMFeb 9
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Dear Muthu,
I find the Chinese privet (Ligustrum lucidum) as the better candidate, because the leaves of the posted plant are larger (8–17 cm) and very glossy compared to the relatively quite smaller (1.5–5 cm), elliptic-obovate of the Nilgiri privet (Ligustrum perrottetii).

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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 9, 2026, 11:40:25 AMFeb 9
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Thank you Dinesh Ji.

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Saroj Kasaju


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J.M. Garg

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Feb 21, 2026, 4:47:54 AMFeb 21
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I think it is Ligustrum perrottetii only as per 
https://efloraofindia.com/efi/ligustrum-perrottetii/
https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/FloraPeninsular/herbsheet.php?id=6461&cat=7
and your earlier post at 'FOR VALIDATION :: ¿ Ligustrum robustum subsp. perrottetii (A.DC.) de Juana ? :: The Nilgiris :: Jan 28, 2026 · 9:33 AM IST'

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J.M. Garg

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Feb 21, 2026, 5:24:41 AMFeb 21
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Also Chinese privet (Ligustrum lucidum) is a cultivated species. 

Dinesh Valke

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Feb 21, 2026, 5:50:03 AMFeb 21
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OK, Garg ji, many thanks. I will revise my notes.
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Dinesh

Dinesh Valke

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Feb 21, 2026, 6:00:09 AMFeb 21
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About being cultivated species, it is considered as an invasive species in the Nilgiris.
Here is the response to my question in Google's search ... https://share.google/aimode/Rt8YTkOIDurCv9br3

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Yes, Ligustrum lucidum (Glossy Privet) is found in the Nilgiris, where it is recognized as an invasive species.

Status in the Nilgiris
  • Invasive Presence: While often introduced as an ornamental tree, it has naturalized and is now invading natural areas within the Nilgiri Biosphere Reserve.
  • Ecological Impact: It is known to spread rapidly, forming a dense canopy that prevents the growth of indigenous grasses and trees, which reduces the food base for local herbivores like gaur and deer.
  • Identification: It is frequently compared with the Nilgiri Privet (Ligustrum perrottetii), a smaller native species. L. lucidum is distinguished by its larger (8–17 cm), glossier leaves.
  • Wider Context: It is part of a broader group of invasive "exotics" in the region—alongside Lantana camara, Senna spectabilis, and Eucalyptus — that the Tamil Nadu Forest Department and local organizations are actively working to manage.
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Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Mar 10, 2026, 3:14:54 AM (11 days ago) Mar 10
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Which species do you think as per the following?:
Here is the difference between the two as per Google AI search:
Ligustrum lucidum (glossy privet) is a large, often invasive, Asian evergreen tree reaching up to 12-25m with large (6–17 cm), shiny leaves and prominent white flower clusters. Ligustrum perrottetii (Nilgiri privet), a native to India, is a much smaller tree (up to 5m) with smaller (1.5–5 cm), duller leaves.
Key Differences:
  • Size and Habit: L. lucidum is a large tree or shrub (up to 25m), while L. perrottetii is a small tree, usually up to 5m.
  • Leaves: L. lucidum has larger (6–17 cm), glossy, dark green leaves. L. perrottetii has smaller (1.5–5 cm), elliptic leaves.
  • Branchlets: L. perrottetii has young branchlets that are minutely velvety and warty.
  • Origin: L. lucidum is native to China, whereas L. perrottetii is native to India, particularly the Western Ghats.
  • Ecological Role: L. lucidum is known as a highly invasive weed in many regions, while L. perrottetii is a local native species.

J.M. Garg

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Awaiting your final decision on this.

Dinesh Valke

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7:58 AM (11 hours ago) 7:58 AM
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I missed updating my notes Garg ji as commented on Feb 21.
The observation is labelled as Ligustrum robustum subsp. perrottetii (A.DC.) de Juana/
Many thanks Garg ji and Muthu.
Regards.
Finesh
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