Pangi flowers al020911a

[Alok Mahendroo]

Dear friends,

Pangi was dry... and dusty (due to excessive road-making) and with no
rains... a lot of flowers and shrubs have been buried under rampant
debris dumping... I am sure that a lot of species would be lost if this
carries on....

Location Pangi valley
Altitude 2000 mts
Habit herb
Habitat wild
Height 3 feet

regards
Alok
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Himalayan Village Education Trust
Village Khudgot,
P.O. Dalhousie
District Chamba
H.P. 176304, India

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Sambucus wightiana

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[Tanay Bose]

Sambucus wightiana

Tanay

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[hemant]

Sambucus hookeri
Commonly used on borders of ornamental gardens in Sahydris.

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On Sep 2, 7:22 pm, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sambucus wightiana
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Alok Mahendroo <alokisabe...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dear friends,
>
> > Pangi was dry... and dusty (due to excessive road-making) and with no
> > rains... a lot of flowers and shrubs have been buried under rampant
> > debris dumping... I am sure that a lot of species would be lost if this
> > carries on....
>
> > Location Pangi valley
> > Altitude 2000 mts
> > Habit herb
> > Habitat wild
> > Height 3 feet
>
> > regards
> > Alok
> > --
> > Himalayan Village Education Trust
> > Village Khudgot,
> > P.O. Dalhousie
> > District Chamba
> > H.P. 176304, India
>
> >www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
> >www.forwildlife.wordpress.com
>

> >http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new...

[Alok Mahendroo]

Sir I thought it looked different from the first Sambucus wightiana id'd
from kalatope 'id al270411a'
regards
Alok..

[Gurcharan Singh]

Alok ji

I had a second look at your Kalatope plant.

https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/425e638e478172fa/ad1f0d4edaa77e0d?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Sambucus+wightiana+Kalatope#ad1f0d4edaa77e0d

It appears to be an umbellifer, perhaps Heracleum candicans. Please upload in separate thread if you have some better photographs of that.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Gurcharan Singh]

For last few days I have been trying to find some reliable differences between three Himalayan species, but frankly not much to choose, although S. adnata and S. chinensis (syn: S. javanica, S. hookeri) are distributed Nepal eastwards and S. wightiana in Western Himalayas. S. chinensis is also distinct in upper pair of leaflets not decurrent at base and 2-4 glandular teeth on lateral leaflets. S. adnata and S. wightiana are closely similar but latter has large stipules, not found in former. Here are few images of S. adnata:

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=87583&flora_id=800

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=87585&flora_id=800

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=87591&flora_id=800

Under these circumstances, it feels reasonable to treat your plant as S. wightiana.

[Alok Mahendroo]

OK sir will do so now..
Regards
Alok

[Alok Mahendroo]

Dear Gurcharan ji,
Thank you for all the interest you take in our observations.. it does
help in keeping us too striving towards betterment.. Here are the photos
of the S. wightiana as id'd earlier.. in case there are any further
details required of this observation, please do let me know as I noticed
this plant has been flowering after monsoons too..

Location Kalatope, Chamba
Altitude 2100 mts
Habit herb
Habitat wild
Plant height 12 inches (as against the Pangi observation which was about
3 feet)

regards
Alok

regards
Alok

On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 08:11 +0530, Gurcharan Singh wrote:

> Heracleum candicans

[Gurcharan Singh]

Alok ji

You have missed attachment, but I had seen the thread and revised identification of Kalatope plant as Heracleum.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Alok Mahendroo]

Very sorry sir,
here they are...
Regards
Alok

[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes Alok ji

Observe enlarged leaf sheath in third and fourth photographs, alternate leaves and more important bilobed petals in your second photograph , of which one is largest, two medium sized and two very small. Heracleum candicans as I wrote earlier.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Alok Mahendroo]

Thank you sir,
Regards
Alok