Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Week: Campanulaceae-Campanula cana from Manali

[Gurcharan Singh]

Campanula cana Wall. in Roxb., Fl. Ind. 2: 101. 1824.

There has been a long discussion on this plant when Prashant ji uploaded his plant, which we now agree to be Campanula pallida var. pallida.

The photographs uploaded by me here after comparing several others appear Campanula cana ( and not C. pallida as depicted on FOI) more firmly because.

1. The following links on Flora of China which resemble mine:

    http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104629&flora_id=800 

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104630&flora_id=800 

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104631&flora_id=800 

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104632&flora_id=800 

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104633&flora_id=800 

2. The plant, leaves, calyx are softly hairy and giving whitish hue to these parts, and not bristly.

3. calyx lobes nearly linear to subulate, not triangular and not toothed, more or less spreading.

4. Corolla lobes almost as long as tube and somewhat spreading.

5. style slightly exserted (and not included as in C. pallida) and clearly 3-lobed stigma.

The flower colour does look lighter than in description, but it matches with eFl of China photographs.

 

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[Satish Phadke]

A very good upload incuding the information.

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[Suresh Rana]

Respected Sir

I have a similar plant i will post it in a separate thread

Warm regards

Suresh Rana

[chrischa...@btinternet.com]

I have my doubts about this coming with C.cana - see the posting I am about to make of an image taken in H.P. of what I

consider is C.cana.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ji,

What about the following:

"The following links on Flora of China which resemble mine:

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104629&flora_id=800 

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104630&flora_id=800 

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104631&flora_id=800 

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104632&flora_id=800 

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104633&flora_id=800"

To me these appear quite close.

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[Anil Thakur]

Garg ji
This is the same plant which I had posted as Campanula cana and we discussed yesterday. In view of the account given by Prof. Mangleshwar Sharma ji of Punjabi University, Patiala in Gloria of Chamba, it should be C. pallida.

But the link provided by you from Flores of China and flora.org are acting to the confusion.

Rdgards

[J.M. Garg]

Yes, we have to treat Campanula cana as a syn. of Campanula pallida as per Flora Similensis. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Anil ji

On Mon 23 Apr, 2018, 11:04 AM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, <aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Flora of Chamba and not Gloria of Chamba

adding and not acting

Spellings were changed by mobile's dictionary automatically. Sorry for
inconvenience.

Regards

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[Gurcharan Singh]

No Anil ji and Garg ji, we can't take such adhoc decisions. We have to follow established Floras and Databases. Agreed, the species C. cana Wall. and C. pallida Wall. are very close and were placed under C. colorata in Flora Similensis, but they are distinct as enumerated by Flora of China, followed by POWO. Any doubts about the colour of C. cana can be removed from these images on eFlora of China.

Image/JPEG: Campanula cana (efloras.org)

Image/JPEG: Campanula cana (efloras.org)

Image/JPEG: Campanula cana (efloras.org)

Please take note of two very important differences: white villous plants leaves and calyx of C. cana vs  hirsute in C. pallida, mostly subulate  calyx lobes of C. cana vs triangular in C. cana.

I will be sharing high resolution images of both to clear doubts.

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Thank you 🙏 for clearing doubts, Sir

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[Gurcharan Singh]

I must further clarify that Collett is silent about C. pallida, and treats C. cana as synonym of C. colorata, whereas FBI treats them distict, C. cana as distinct species and C. pallida under C. colorata.