efloraofindia:''For Id 20032013MR2’’ huge tree with green yellow flowers at Pune

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Bhagyashri

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Mar 20, 2013, 11:31:39 AM3/20/13
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requesting identification of this huge tree along Bund garden Road at Pune. It is flowering profusely at present. From a distance the flowers appear yellow-green-brown. leaves appear to be alternate but I may be wrong. no fruits were seen. This was the only tree among other trees along the road
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Bhagyashri

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Mar 20, 2013, 11:33:09 AM3/20/13
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Sorry I forgot to mention that the branches were long and drooping
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ajinkya gadave

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Mar 20, 2013, 11:44:45 AM3/20/13
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i think this is  Anogeissus dhofarica

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Bhagyashri

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Mar 21, 2013, 12:09:54 AM3/21/13
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Many thanks Ajinkya ji for the Id. Is there a common name in Marathi for this tree?
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Satish Phadke

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Mar 21, 2013, 12:53:25 AM3/21/13
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I would rather go with Anogeissus pendula or A. Sericea (Mahadhavda in Marathi) which is native and is flowering at some other placea in Pune now.

Bhagyashri

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Mar 21, 2013, 11:19:59 AM3/21/13
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Ajinkya ji & Satish ji,
Many thanks Satish ji for the Id and the name in Marathi. 
Yesterday I found your previous post "Anogeissus for ID"  https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!search/Anogeissus$20phadke/indiantreepix/DovwgCf3bB8/75FKeOTutYoJ

where Neil ji has mentioned the differences as follows The leaves of A.myrtifolia [A.pendula] are 2-4 by 0.9-1.5 cms and the flowers are in small globose heads 6mm across [whereas in A.serica it is 1-2 cms in diameter].
I went back to the same place and could barely photograph the tip of a branch and take the measurment which is as follows

leaves 4cm X 2cm

flowers green globose head 1cm; full flower 2cm

Attaching pictures of the same

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Bhagyashri

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Neil Soares

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Mar 21, 2013, 1:32:05 PM3/21/13
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Hi,
  Ajinkya could be right. This could be Anogeissus dhofarica [though I have never seen it]. This does not look like either A.acuminata [A.pendula] or A. sericea [A.rotundifolia] to me.
 My photographs of A.acuminata are available in the archives of this group. Please also check these links :
 
 
 
 Am sending photographs of A.sericea [A.rotundifolia] for comparison in a separate mail.
 
                        With regards,
                          Neil Soares.
 

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Bhagyashri

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Mar 21, 2013, 11:26:13 PM3/21/13
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Hello Neil ji,
Many thanks for your reply ,links and the separate post with photographs of A.sericea. 
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Bhagyashri

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Satish Phadke

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Mar 21, 2013, 11:42:50 PM3/21/13
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On a second look at the pictures on facebook, this doesn't look similar to Anogeissus sericea. Clear pictures are needed to go closer to ID.

Bhagyashri

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Mar 22, 2013, 2:44:46 AM3/22/13
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Satish ji,
Thank you for your feed back. I will see if it is possible to get clear pictures. I forgot to mention yesterday that the leaves were soft to touch, also some leaves appeared to be bigger than 4cms in length but I could not actually measure them as were higher up. Also alternate leaves appeared to differ in size one small and one big. The leaves appeared to have a undulatory margin at places.
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Bhagyashri

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Mar 31, 2013, 12:20:06 PM3/31/13
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Hello friends,                                                                                                                      Attaching some more pics of the tree with additional dimensions                   Young leaves silvery,smooth and soft  hairy underneath                                              Longest leaf 7.3 cmx 3cm                                                                                                  Petiole 3mm long                                                                                                              Peduncle 18 mm ? bracts seen                                                                                     Inflorescence head 1cm, including flowers about 18-19m                     axillary,terminal,solitary and also with 2 heads at places                                                       Calyx stalk 5mm appears hairy- may be I am wrong

Can this be Anogeissus acuminata var. acuminata?

Ref

A Revision of Anogeissus (Combretaceae)

A. J. Scott

Kew Bulletin
Vol. 33, No. 4 (1979), pp. 555-566
Published by: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Article Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/4109799

Whatever I could grasp to my ability from this ref I thought about this Id. My kind request to please validate the Id
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 8, 2013, 5:16:49 AM4/8/13
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.


efi site link: Anogeissus acuminata
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 24, 2013, 8:11:55 AM4/24/13
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A reply from another thread:
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surajit"
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Bhagyashri

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Apr 24, 2013, 8:50:24 AM4/24/13
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Thank you Garg ji for taking care of this post for Id confirmation. Thank you Surajit ji for confirming the Id
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surajit koley

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Apr 24, 2013, 10:13:15 AM4/24/13
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Dear Garg Sir,

I think -
  1. It is not Anogeissus dhofarica, which is a 12m tall tree, leaf 5.5 cm long or less; flower-head solitary at the end of leafy axillary branches
  2. It is not Anogeissus sericea, because leaf base is obtuse in Anogeissus sericea
  3. It is not Anogeissus pendula, which is a shrub or small tree


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surajit



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Bhagyashri

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Apr 24, 2013, 10:28:11 AM4/24/13
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Thank you Surajit ji for the detailed explanation
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Satish Phadke

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Apr 24, 2013, 10:43:28 AM4/24/13
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Yes Anogeissus acuminata.

Dr Satish Phadke

Bhagyashri

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Apr 24, 2013, 11:14:10 AM4/24/13
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Thank you Satish ji for confirming the Id
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Bhagyashri

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surajit koley

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Apr 24, 2013, 11:14:51 AM4/24/13
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Thank you Madam, it was very confusing, initially, i had to read again and again, a number of times, the linked document.

Regards,
surajit


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Bhagyashri

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Apr 24, 2013, 11:20:52 AM4/24/13
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Thank you Surajit ji for your time and efforts to help to attain the Id. This tree looks very nice with its long drooping branches in full bloom. I saw it the first time and liked it very much. Let us hope that I get to see the fruits of this tree
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surajit koley

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Apr 24, 2013, 12:49:16 PM4/24/13
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Madam,

I will be waiting to see its fruits, for more precise id confirmation.

Thank you very much.

Regards,
surajit
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