MS, Aug.,2023/01 Gesneriaceae ? for id.

[M Sawmliana]

Location : Tlangpui, South Mizoram

Altitude : ca.1,100 m

Date : 29-07-2023

Habit : Undershrub

Habitat : Wild

Photo : Vanlalhruaia Kompa

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I do not think so.

What else can it be?

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Some earlier relevant feedback:

I do not think so.

What else can it be?- from me

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I do not think so. What else can it be?- from me

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Subject: Re: [itpmods:17996] Fwd: [efloraofindia:453118] MS, Aug.,2023/01 Gesneriaceae ? for id.
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Could it be Argostemma??

Thank you.

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This is a Rubiaceae member.

On Sun, 10 Sep 2023, 16:58 Saroj Kasaju, <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Could it be Argostemma??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Dr E S Santhosh Kumar <santhos...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep, 2023, 06:44
Subject: Re: [itpmods:17998] Fwd: [efloraofindia:453118] MS, Aug.,2023/01 Gesneriaceae ? for id.
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Argostemma sp

SANTHOSH

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Dr. E S SANTHOSH KUMAR MSc, PhD, FIAT, FABSc, FLS 

Member: IUCN SSC Western Ghats Plant Specialist Group

Jawaharlal Nehru Tropical Botanic Garden and Research Institute (JNTBG&RI), 

Palode, Karimancode P.O.

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This is a Rubiaceae member.

On Sun, 10 Sep 2023, 16:58 Saroj Kasaju, <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Could it be Argostemma??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep, 2023, 09:10
Subject: Re: [itpmods:18001] Fwd: [efloraofindia:453118] MS, Aug.,2023/01 Gesneriaceae ? for id.
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Yes, Argostemma sp.

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Ritesh

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Date: Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 11:47
Subject: Re: [itpmods:18004] Fwd: [efloraofindia:453118] MS, Aug.,2023/01 Gesneriaceae ? for id.
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As per the checklist of India- 9 species in India.

A. humile, A. khasianum, A. monophyllum, A. rostratum, A. sarmentosum, A. verticillatum are known from NE India.

And it is neither A. sarmentosum nor A. verticillatum which are known to occur in W.Himalaya too.

The corolla structure is closer to A. courtallense which is a South Indian species known in Karnataka, Kerala and Tamil Nadu.

 http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=8331&cat=7

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eflorapantnagar: displaying flora of Pantnagar

Virtual Herbarium Pantnagar: a synoptic collection 

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 9:59 AM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks a lot, Vijayasankar ji and Ritesh ji

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On Tue, 12 Sep, 2023, 06:44 Dr E S Santhosh Kumar, <santhos...@gmail.com> wrote:

Argostemma sp

SANTHOSH

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Member: IUCN SSC Western Ghats Plant Specialist Group

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On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 14:41, Tapas Chakrabarty <tcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is a Rubiaceae member.

On Sun, 10 Sep 2023, 16:58 Saroj Kasaju, <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Could it be Argostemma??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Santosh Ji / Ritesh Ji / Rawat ji for validating my guess on Argostemma.

I checked A. courtallense also earlier but it has got no distribution.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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I tried checking these species in POWO and GBIF, but it does not match as per 
https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:743702-1
https://www.gbif.org/species/2917240
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=2917195
https://www.gbif.org/species/2917345

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Hi, Sawmliana ji,

What are the species reported in your book with keys?

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Thanks, Sawmliana ji

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I think this could be an undescribed taxon of Argostemma? Please check it carefully as we cannot fix its identity properly to any known entity of the genus. 

Thanks 

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Date: Sun, 17 Sept 2023 at 20:15
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Thanks, Santhosh ji.

Or it may be some species reported from Myanmar as it is bordering it. 

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I think this could be an undescribed taxon of Argostemma? Please check it carefully as we cannot fix its identity properly to any known entity of the genus. 

Thanks 

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