Indian names of an orange

[m.por...@bigpond.com]

Dear all,
Could you please supply me with various Indian names, preferably in original scripts, for this orange / mandarin.

Thanks.
Michel

Citrus poonensis hort. ex Tanaka　
SYNONYM(S): Citrus poonensis Osbeck ?, Citrus reticulata Blanco  'Oneco' ? Citrus reticulata Blanco   'Poongan' ,  Citrus reticulata Blanco   'Ponkan', Citrus reticulata Blanco   'Suntara' ,  Citrus reticulata Blanco var. poonensis (Hayata) H. H. Hu
CHINESE :   Mi gan (Zhangzhou), 椪柑 Peng gan,  椪  Pon (Guangdong),  椪柑  Peng gan (Taiwan),  Lu gan (Zhangzhou, Fujian) ,  Lu gan (Taiwan),  Lu (Hong Kong, Taiwan),  Mei gan (Hunan province),  Bai ju (Yunnan, Jianshui of Rennan province),  Meng ban ju (Xisongbanna of Rennan province) ,  Mi tong gan,  有柑 You ga  (Taiwan).
ENGLISH :   Batangas mandarin, Chinese honey orange, Ponkan mandarin, Poona orange, Suntara mandarin,Suntara orange,  Lu tangerine.

FRENCH : Mandarine Ponkan, Mandarine Ponkan de Formose, Mandarine Suntara, Mandarine Suntara de l'Inde.

HINDI :  Nagpur suntara, Nangpur suntara.

JAPANESE  :   ポンカン  Ponkan,  椪柑  Ponkan.

TAGALOG :  Batangas.
VIETNAMESE :  Cam ngọt Trung Quốc.


Bolded names are the preferred names. See our note on Jiao & Lu mandarins.

Strangely, given that this is a well known Chinese cultivar,  the latest taxonomy appears to favour the botanical Citrus reticulata Blanco  'Ponkan' which is base on the romanised Japanese name. It does however, by association, link it to the Hindi name "Suntara". We still have to determine if "Suntara" = "Nagpur suntara". After the Chinese brainstorm we have an Indian brainstorm to initiate. That should give us a number of Indian names.

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[promila chaturvedi]

 It is known as Santara and another name Kamala

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Promila

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[OZmic]

Yes these names are applied to Citrus reticulata Blanco and sometimes (wrongly?) to other species but we are trying to identify a cultivar of Citrus reticulata Blanco (or a different related species Citrus poonensis) so we need a longer or different name, perhaps "Nangpur santara" ? I often see the names কমলা Kamalā, कमला Kamalā, கமலா  Kamalā,  కమలా Kamalā, সান্তারা Sāntārā, संतरा  Santarā, सुन्तला Suntalā, સંતરા Santarā,  but I don't know how to write Nagpur, Nangpur, Nangpoor in any script given that none of those 3 transcriptions is enough to transliterate. Is "suntara" = "santara" it could be that "suntara" refers to some other fruit or that it is simply a bad transcription (Suntalā is Nepali).
I  get the feeling that Santara and Kamala are generic names, although there is a cultivar called "Kamala" (Citrus reticulata Blanco 'Kamala') in India. As you see my confusion is growing.
Please confirm that there is a  "Nangpur santara" or something sounding like this. If so what does it apply to?
Thanks. Michel

[Dinesh Valke]

Hi Michel,

Not sure whether the following pertains to Citrus poonensis hort. ex Tanaka OR Citrus reticulata Blanco  'Ponkan'
But validating the spellings and providing them in native scripts.

HINDI ..........................................................................................................
नागपुर संतरा Nagpur santara

नागपुर Nagpur

It s name of a city in central India well known for cultivation of oranges in a very large scale

संतरा santara ... Wikipedia

संतरा santara is generic name for the orange derived from: URDU سنگترا sangtara ... PERSIAN سنگتره sangtara ... supposed to be a correlation of PORTUGUESE cintra

A dictionary of Urdu, classical Hindi, and English by John T. Platts

Nangpur

Nangpur in this context is ruled out. Nagpur has no such popular variance in name, unless validated otherwise.
नांगपुर Nangpur is also a name of place ... a small village in Faridabad, though in no way popular for oranges.

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Same name in:

MARATHI ... नागपुर संत्र Nagpur santra
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Regards.
Dinesh

[Dinesh Valke]

Hi Michel,

As put earlier:
Have not heard of Nangpur santara ... please let validating comment(s) come by.
Nagpur is a well known city -- but Nangpur is a small village, not associated to oranges ... friends to validate.
Whether Nagpur is called as Nangpur by certain set of population (rare possibility) ... friends to validate.

GUJARATI નાગપુર સંતરા Nagpur santara ... equivalent of ... HINDI नागपुर संतरा Nagpur santara

HINDI ..........................................................................................................

कमला kamala (vulg. kamla, variances: kaula or kaunla)

A dictionary of Urdu, classical Hindi, and English by John T. Platts

may not be as generic as संतरा santara ... कमला kamala could be more probably specific

कौंला kaunla

a variance of कमला kamala

A dictionary of Urdu, classical Hindi, and English by John T. Platts

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संतरा santara is generic name for orange
नागपुर संत्र Nagpur santra is name given to all oranges supplied from Nagpur
Thus they cannot be equated ...

Regards.
Dinesh

[shetur]

Hi,

As I said in earlier post I am no expert but in Gujarati

નાગપુરી સંતરા Nagpuri santara sounds correct and better instead: નાગપુર સંતરા Nagpur santara.

Would definitely like experts to comment.
Reg