Re: [indiantreepix:5563] Please help

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Mahendra Prasad

Oct 30, 2008, 4:42:09 AM10/30/08
to indiantreepix, Sushmita Jha
The small disc-ed hard red seeds could be seeds of Rakta Chandan, about 8 mm dia like a flying saucer. Trees can be seen between GPO & Fairlee Place in Kolkata. In season, the road is strewn with these red seeds. The 2nd seed probably is the well-known Ratti, a creeper ), as observed by Anand ji. The seeds were used by goldsmiths in olden days as a measure of weight. 12 ( I think ) Rattis were equal to 1 Masha,  6 ( again not sure ) Mashas were equal to 1 Tola ( which is about 11.7 gm ). ( I am forgetting what we studied in class 4 Arithmetics. ) The Rattis, minature egg-shaped, brilliant scarlet red with a large black spot having a small white dot, are eye-catching, specially if seen in the jungle. I have come across both the rare white & black varieties also. Ratti is Indian Licorice ( not sure ) botanical name Abrus sps(  not sure ). Can give botanical names of both both seeds later.

--- On Mon, 27/10/08, Sushmita Jha <> wrote:
From: Sushmita Jha <>
Subject: [indiantreepix:5563] Please help
To: "indiantreepix" <>
Date: Monday, 27 October, 2008, 8:40 PM

Hello all,
in my childhood in Santiniketan, there used to be a tree which dropped small disc-like hard red seeds. If I recall correctly, the tree resembled a rain tree. Could anyone please help me with the name?
There is another small longish red seed with a black eye - which often used to be used as a weight by goldsmiths. Would appreciate knowing the name of this too.
Since I have no idea of the names, I dont know how to search for them.
Many thanks - and Happy Diwali to all.
Sushmita Jha

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Anand Kumar Bhatt

Oct 30, 2008, 6:03:14 AM10/30/08
to, indiantreepix, Sushmita Jha
Ratti is Abrus precatorius. Rakta Chandan is Adenenthera microsperma.

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Sushmita Jha

Oct 30, 2008, 6:35:28 AM10/30/08
to Anand Kumar Bhatt,, indiantreepix
Thank you all once again.
Sushmita Jha

J.M. Garg

Oct 30, 2008, 12:19:41 PM10/30/08
to Sushmita Jha, Anand Kumar Bhatt,, indiantreepix
Details of Abrus precatorius with links (containing pictures) from Indiantreepix Database:
Abrus precatorius Fabaceae Crab Eyed Creeper, Jequirity, gunj, Rosary Pea, 'John Crow' Bead, Precatory bean, Indian Licorice or Saga Tree  common in areas of SGNP ( Yeoor, Nagla, Tungareshwar & Yeoor ). Jequirity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ID required for this plant - indiantreepix | Google Groups

Pictures of Adenanthera pavonia (False Red Sandalwood, Bead Tree) at:,, & links with details:
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Anand Kumar Bhatt

Oct 30, 2008, 1:05:22 PM10/30/08
to J.M. Garg, Sushmita Jha,, indiantreepix
to continue with Raktachandan, in Seoni  (M.P.) near Nagpur there is about 50 acres of Raktachandan in the forest Dept. which is jealously guarded by them. It appears that a small patch of Raktachandan trees was discovered by the Forest officers a few decades back and since then they have expanded the area.

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