Fabaceae (Faboideae) Fortnight :: FOR ID Crotalaria :: Tung fort :: DVOCT39

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Dinesh Valke

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Oct 13, 2015, 3:22:18 AM10/13/15
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Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Fortnight
pea family
Crotalaria ¿ mysorensis ?
Dear friends,
Could this erect hairy herb, about 2 - 3 ft tall be Crotalaria mysorensis ?
at Tung fort on October 13, 2012 

Crotalaria ¿ mysorensis ? 

Crotalaria ¿ mysorensis ? 

Crotalaria ¿ mysorensis ? 

Crotalaria ¿ mysorensis ? 

Crotalaria ¿ mysorensis ?
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Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Oct 18, 2015, 1:57:47 AM10/18/15
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

efi page on Crotalaria mysorensis  
 
Leaves does not seem to match with images at Crotalaria mysorensis

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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efi page on Crotalaria mysorensis   
Leaves does not seem to match with images at Crotalaria mysorensis

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Dinesh Valke

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Oct 26, 2015, 10:59:50 AM10/26/15
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Thanks Garg ji.

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Dinesh Valke

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Oct 29, 2015, 1:44:55 PM10/29/15
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I think this must be Crotalaria calycina; dear friends, please validate.
Regards.
Dinesh

Vijayasankar Raman

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Nov 1, 2015, 1:19:17 AM11/1/15
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Dinesh ji, I think the original ID is correct. It resembles C. mysorensis, especially the indumentum (hairyness) and calyx characters, rather than C. calycina.
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Dinesh Valke

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Nov 1, 2015, 2:31:30 AM11/1/15
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Thank you very much Vijayasankar ji.
After reading through description in Flora of China and seeing crisp picture of your plant in flickr, I do not see the conspicuous stipule in my posted plant. Do the stipules have tendency to fall off ?
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Dinesh

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Nov 7, 2015, 12:41:38 AM11/7/15
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

I think this must be Crotalaria calycina; dear friends, please validate.

Regards.
Dinesh                                         

Dinesh ji, I think the original ID is correct. It resembles C. mysorensis, especially the indumentum (hairyness) and calyx characters, rather than C. calycina. 
Vijayasankar

Thank you very much Vijayasankar ji.

After reading through description in Flora of China and seeing crisp picture of your plant in flickr, I do not see the conspicuous stipule in my posted plant. Do the stipules have tendency to fall off ?
Regards.
Dinesh 

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

I think this must be Crotalaria calycina; dear friends, please validate.

Regards.
Dinesh                                         

Dinesh ji, I think the original ID is correct. It resembles C. mysorensis, especially the indumentum (hairyness) and calyx characters, rather than C. calycina. 
Vijayasankar

Thank you very much Vijayasankar ji.

After reading through description in Flora of China and seeing crisp picture of your plant in flickr, I do not see the conspicuous stipule in my posted plant. Do the stipules have tendency to fall off ?
Regards.
Dinesh 

Images of Crotalaria calycina & Crotalaria mysorensis

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Some earlier relevant feedback:

I think this must be Crotalaria calycina; dear friends, please validate.

Regards.
Dinesh                                         

Dinesh ji, I think the original ID is correct. It resembles C. mysorensis, especially the indumentum (hairyness) and calyx characters, rather than C. calycina. 
Vijayasankar

Thank you very much Vijayasankar ji.

After reading through description in Flora of China and seeing crisp picture of your plant in flickr, I do not see the conspicuous stipule in my posted plant. Do the stipules have tendency to fall off ?
Regards.
Dinesh 

Images of Crotalaria calycina & Crotalaria mysorensis

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Distributed as  Crotalaria calycina ?
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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 14, 2021, 11:18:29 AM9/14/21
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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 15, 2021, 1:13:09 AM9/15/21
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Many thanks Gurcharan ji for resurfacing the query.
Thanks very much Saroj ji; I believe the posted plant is Crotalaria calycina Schrank.
Please validate.

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Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Sep 19, 2021, 3:49:34 AM9/19/21
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Three four hairy species are quite confusing and we have to follow the following keys from Flora of Peninsular India as below:
36 Leaves elliptic lanceolate or oblong, more than twice as long as broad
  38 Stipules prominent ovate lanceolate or lanceolate
    39 Stem with spreading hairs
    41 Pods slightly exserted, 15-20 seeded   .... C.hirta
    41 Pods much exserted , 20-35 seeds
      42 Leaves villous beneath; bracts often 3 lobed; pods subsessile  ..... C.mysorensis
      42 Leaves appressed pubescent beneath; bracts simple; pods shortly stalked .... C.ferruginea
38 Stipules minute or 0.
  43 Pods as long as or shorter than calyx
    44 Calyx to 0.8 cm long; upper two lobes connate except at tip; pods globose ... C.linifolia
    44 Calyx to 2.5 cm long; lobes connate at base only; pods oblong .... C. calycina

We have to re-examine all our observations, based on these keys. 

In view of these keys, I think Dinesh ji's posted plant may be C.calycina 

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Sep 19, 2021, 4:19:38 AM9/19/21
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Thanks a lot, Krishnaraj ji

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Crotalaria calycina Schrank

Krishnaraj

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