16102011GS2 a shrub from Tiger fall area Chakrata for ID

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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 16, 2011, 12:09:55 AM10/16/11
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This small shrub was photographed from near Tiger fall in Chakrata at about 1400 m altitude. Leaves small usually 1.5-2 cm long, broadly obovate with rounded apex, cuneate at base; fruits 5-7 mm, globose, reddish, on 1-2 cm long stalk; calyx persistent in fruit, calyx lobes (sepals?) about 2 mm long, scarious margined, rounded at tip.

Help in ID is requested  

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
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Dubia-18-Chakrata Tiger fall area-1.jpg
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Nidhan Singh

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Oct 16, 2011, 12:27:42 AM10/16/11
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Dear Sir,
I think we must agree for this to be a Phyllanthus species, I am  attaching few pics of the same from the same site, for giving some more views. Hope the final identification comes soon.


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Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227

Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata.JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (1).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (2).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (3).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (4).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (5).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (6).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (7).JPG

Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 16, 2011, 1:09:56 AM10/16/11
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Thanks Nidhan ji for hunting out a male open flower. Yes it seems to be Phyllanthus. I place it tentatively under P. parvifolius. May be my estimation of leaf size was on upper side.


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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 31, 2011, 7:02:03 AM10/31/11
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putting up again for ID confirmation


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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 28, 2011, 9:16:19 AM11/28/11
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Resurfacing again for ID

Earlier feedback

Nidhan ji......................................I think we must agree for this to be a Phyllanthus species,

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
Dubia-18-Chakrata Tiger fall area-1.jpg
Dubia-18-Chakrata Tiger fall area-2.jpg

H S

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Nov 29, 2011, 1:04:18 AM11/29/11
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Just guess, Kirganelia reticulata, sure Family Euphorbiaceae

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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 29, 2011, 1:24:22 AM11/29/11
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Thanks H S
I think you are right. I have photographed Phyllanthus reticulatus from Herbal Garden Delhi and I think it is pretty close.
Thanks once again.


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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Nidhan Singh

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Nov 29, 2011, 1:43:35 AM11/29/11
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Dear Gurcharan Sir and HS Ji,

The plant in question does look like P. reticulata, but the fruit
seems to be different. I am hereby attaching pics of the same
individual through my camera. Hope to resole the identity.

Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata.JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (1).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (2).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (4).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (5).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (6).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (7).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (8).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (9).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (10).JPG

Nidhan Singh

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Nov 29, 2011, 1:51:20 AM11/29/11
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For further comparison, I am attaching here pics of Phyllanthus
reticulata from Panipat.
Phyllanthus reticulata.JPG
Phyllanthus reticulata (1).JPG
Phyllanthus reticulata (2).JPG
Phyllanthus reticulata (3).JPG
Phyllanthus reticulata (4).JPG
Phyllanthus reticulata (5).JPG
Phyllanthus reticulata (6).JPG
Phyllanthus reticulata (7).JPG

Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 29, 2011, 2:26:53 AM11/29/11
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Yes Nidhan ji
Few things stand out. Phyllanthus reticulatus flowers are pinkish in colour, in clusters at each node, on much longer pedicel and fruit slightly larger and finally black

In this plant flowers occur singly, white in colour, on very short pedicel and fruit smaller and reddish in colour.

Here is my P. reticulatus from Delhi


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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Phyllanthus-reticulatus-Delhi-1.jpg
Phyllanthus-reticulatus-Delhi-2.jpg
Phyllanthus-reticulatus-Delhi-3.jpg
Phyllanthus-reticulatus-Delhi-4.jpg

Nidhan Singh

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Nov 29, 2011, 10:11:25 AM11/29/11
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Yes Sir,
 
I think these features are suffiecient to separate the two species, I wonder what it turns to be, finally....

Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 14, 2012, 6:16:29 AM1/14/12
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Resurfacing again for ID after it has been almost established that it can't be Phyllanthus reticulatus


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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

jmgarg1

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Nov 13, 2012, 5:40:11 AM11/13/12
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

 Thanks Nidhan ji for hunting out a male open flower. Yes it seems to be Phyllanthus. I place it tentatively under P. parvifolius. May be my estimation of leaf size was on upper side.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh

 Yes Nidhan ji

Few things stand out. Phyllanthus reticulatus flowers are pinkish in colour, in clusters at each node, on much longer pedicel and fruit slightly larger and finally black
In this plant flowers occur singly, white in colour, on very short pedicel and fruit smaller and reddish in colour.
Here is my P. reticulatus from Delhi
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Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Yes Sir,

I think these features are suffiecient to separate the two species, I wonder what it turns to be, finally.... from Nidhan ji.
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Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata.JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (1).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (2).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (3).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (4).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (5).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (6).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (7).JPG

J.M. Garg

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Nov 18, 2013, 7:14:00 AM11/18/13
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.



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Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata.JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (1).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (2).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (3).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (4).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (5).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (6).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (7).JPG

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Nov 19, 2013, 2:54:32 AM11/19/13
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Phyllanthus reticulatus comes to mind which is a variable and widespread species.  P. pseudoparvifolius has much smaller leaves and fruits. P. parvifolius does not occur in India.
Tapas.

J.M. Garg

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Apr 10, 2022, 11:04:42 AMApr 10
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Singh ji's these two images appear close to images at Phyllanthus clarkei Hook.f.

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Dubia-18-Chakrata Tiger fall area-1.jpg
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 10, 2022, 11:07:06 AMApr 10
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Nidhan ji's these 8 images have been identified as Phyllanthus glaucus Wall. ex Müll.Arg. by Balakrishnan ji as per EUPHORBIACEAE FORTNIGHT:: Phyllanthus 2 for id from Chakrata NS-57

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Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata.JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (1).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (2).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (3).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (4).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (5).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (6).JPG
Phyllanthus sp. Chakrata (7).JPG

Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 10, 2022, 11:21:14 AMApr 10
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Yes Mr. Garg. I guess Cathetus clarkei (Hook.f.) R.W.Bouman is the correct ID !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Apr 10, 2022, 11:27:06 AMApr 10
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These excellent images belong to Cathetus clarkei, formerly Phyllanthus clarkei.

J.M. Garg

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Apr 10, 2022, 11:57:40 AMApr 10
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Thanks a lot, Tapas ji
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