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Shrikant Ingalhalikar

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Sep 26, 2010, 12:05:06 AM9/26/10
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Pls ID this anuual climber. Leaves broadly ovate, cordate, coarsely serrate, 8-12 cm. Flowers 8-10 cm, pale yellow. Fruits caducous prematurely but resemble Momordica, 3 cm long, tubercled, red.

Shrikant Ingalhalikar
12 Varshanand Society
Anandnagar Sinhagad Road
Pune 411 051. www.idsahyadri.com
Tel 91 20 2435 0765.
Fax 91 20 2438 9190.
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 26, 2010, 12:31:16 AM9/26/10
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Shrikant ji
Flower size, is it cm or mm?


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shrikant ingalhalikar

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Sep 26, 2010, 10:20:48 AM9/26/10
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Singh Sir, the flowers are really that big, about 10 cm. This is found
on a hedge and vegetable vendors sit near it. I wonder if it is any of
the plants used as vegetables but I do not know any. Regards, Shrikant

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On Sep 26, 9:31 am, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shrikant ji
> Flower size, is it cm or mm?
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar <le...@rediffmail.com
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > Pls ID this anuual climber. Leaves broadly ovate, cordate, coarsely
> > serrate, 8-12 cm. Flowers 8-10 cm, pale yellow. Fruits caducous prematurely
> > but resemble Momordica, 3 cm long, tubercled, red.
>
> > Shrikant Ingalhalikar
> > 12 Varshanand Society
> > Anandnagar Sinhagad Road
> > Pune 411 051.www.idsahyadri.com
> > Tel 91 20 2435 0765.
> > Fax 91 20 2438 9190.
>
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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 26, 2010, 12:44:07 PM9/26/10
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Shrikant ji ... resembles Momordica cochinchinensis at FOI http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Chinese%20Cucumber.html ... differs in colour.
Regards.

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 26, 2010, 1:28:47 PM9/26/10
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Dinesh ji, you are right, it is Momordica cochinchinensis. Yellowish colour appears to be the rule, white a rarity.





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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

shrikant ingalhalikar

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Sep 26, 2010, 8:39:19 PM9/26/10
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Yes it is the female plant of M. cochinchinensis. Now I should look
for a male plant to enjoy the Chinese Cucumber. Thank you Dr.
Gurcharan Singh ji and Dinesh ji. Regards, Shrikant.

On Sep 26, 10:28 pm, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dinesh ji, you are right, it is Momordica cochinchinensis. Yellowish colour
> appears to be the rule, white a rarity.
>
> http://gardeningwithwilson.com/2008/10/14/the-spiny-bittergourd-omord...
>
> http://blog.yume.vn/xem-blog/nho-hoi-nho-qua-.nhim_lemon07.35B670F5.html
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> <http://gardeningwithwilson.com/2008/10/14/the-spiny-bittergourd-omord...>
>
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Shrikant ji ... resembles *Momordica cochinchinensis* at FOI
> >http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Chinese%20Cucumber.html...
> > differs in colour.
> > Regards.
>
> > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:50 PM, shrikant ingalhalikar <
> > le...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Singh Sir, the flowers are really that big, about 10 cm. This is found
> >> on a hedge and vegetable vendors sit near it. I wonder if it is any of
> >> the plants used as vegetables but I do not know any. Regards, Shrikant
>
> >> .
> >> On Sep 26, 9:31 am, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Shrikant ji
> >> > Flower size, is it cm or mm?
>
> >> > --
> >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >> > Retired  Associate Professor
> >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>
> >> > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar <
> >> le...@rediffmail.com
>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > Pls ID this anuual climber. Leaves broadly ovate, cordate, coarsely
> >> > > serrate, 8-12 cm. Flowers 8-10 cm, pale yellow. Fruits caducous
> >> prematurely
> >> > > but resemble Momordica, 3 cm long, tubercled, red.
>
> >> > > Shrikant Ingalhalikar
> >> > > 12 Varshanand Society
> >> > > Anandnagar Sinhagad Road
> >> > > Pune 411 051.www.idsahyadri.com
> >> > > Tel 91 20 2435 0765.
> >> > > Fax 91 20 2438 9190.
>
> >> > > <
> >>http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.co...>-
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 26, 2010, 9:40:58 PM9/26/10
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Snrikant ji, best of luck for male plants. An intelligent grower generally grows several vines in the same area to get a good mixture of male and female plants.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

nabha meghani

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Sep 27, 2010, 5:35:12 AM9/27/10
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A stupid question from me again!
 
I had the impression that there are male as well as female flowers on ons single plant.
I had grown zucchinis this year , and pumpkins last year. though I had  put four seed in the soil just one plant survived and produced fruits. So why Shrikant ji  should look
for a male plant? 
Do Chinese Cucumber behave differently?
 
Regards
Nalini

shrikant ingalhalikar

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Sep 27, 2010, 7:24:12 AM9/27/10
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Singh Sir, I have not grown this plant, I found it on a hedge in a
subji-mandi. I suppose the Chinese Cucumber must be coming to that
market, I must keep an eye for ripe fruits. Thank you for the
information.
Nabha ji, this plant grows unisexual flowers on separate plants
(dioecious) unlike some other Momordicas. If I happen to know a male
plant, I could carry out artificial pollination to fertilise a few
flowers of this female plant that I know. A valid question anyway.
Regards, Shrikant

On Sep 27, 6:40 am, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Snrikant ji, best of luck for male plants. An intelligent grower generally
> grows several vines in the same area to get a good mixture of male and
> female plants.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
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