identification no 17/09/2014sn1

[Satish Nikam]

Friends,

          Kindly help in identification of this Palm Tree.

Date/time:march14

location:ambyvalley rd.,lonavala,pune

habitat:wild

plant habit:tree

height:about 6-7 ft.upto the tip

other info:flowers attract a lot of honeybees

regards

satish nikam

[radha veach]

My guess is Phoenix robusta

regards
Radha

[Ushadi Micromini]

may be canary island palm, not sure though

would like to see it in its entirety, if you had a chance to take it all in.

usha di

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[satish nikam]

This is the same https://www.flickr.com/photos/49876611@N06/6165335635/in/photolist-aoNXug, i posted earlier identified as Chamerops humilis.Of course it is not cultivated.
Regards
Satish nikam

[radha veach]

HI Satish,

I have seen Phoenix robusta in the location you mentioned. In this area they are often very short trees, sometimes only a few feet. Your posted pictures resemble mine. It is often difficult to get an image of an entire tree.

regards
Radha

[satish nikam]

Hello Radha,
Let me get this straight.Does it mean P.robusta=P. loureiroi var. pedunculata=P. loureirii var. humilis=P. humilis Royle ex Baker.Hook
Kindly clarify and thanks for the help.Appreciate it.
Regards
Satish nikam

[radha veach]

Hi Satish,

I spent a very long time trying to sort out these similar species of Phoenix even after seeing plants with flowers and fruits for several years!

From the available literature it appears there is some confusion between them.

I finally went with the description of P. robusta given in Talbot's Forest Flora of Bombay Presidency and Sind because it is the most detailed and most closely matches with the plants I have seen in Lonavala area. It may be that the plant displays some differences according to soil, exposure to wind etc.

Please look it up and see what you think.

If any experts can throw more light on the specific distinctions between these species that would be great!

Thanks for posting this plant.

Do try the fruits if you get a chance to pick them before the monkeys. They are very sweet. The seeds germinate easily and you can propagate the trees!

regards
Radha

Regards
Satish nikam

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

My guess is Phoenix robusta regards Radha

may be canary island palm, not sure though

would like to see it in its entirety, if you had a chance to take it all in. usha di

This is the same https://www.flickr.com/photos/49876611@N06/6165335635/in/photolist-aoNXug, i posted earlier identified as Chamerops humilis.Of course it is not cultivated. Regards Satish nikam
I have seen Phoenix robusta in the location you mentioned. In this area they are often very short trees, sometimes only a few feet. Your posted pictures resemble mine. It is often difficult to get an image of an entire tree. regards Radha
Let me get this straight. Does it mean P.robusta= P. loureiroi var. pedunculata= P. loureirii var. humilis= P. humilis Royle ex Baker. Hook

Kindly clarify and thanks for the help. Appreciate it. Regards Satish nikam

I spent a very long time trying to sort out these similar species of Phoenix even after seeing plants with flowers and fruits for several years!

From the available literature it appears there is some confusion between them. I finally went with the description of P. robusta given in Talbot's Forest Flora of Bombay Presidency and Sind because it is the most detailed and most closely matches with the plants I have seen in Lonavala area. It may be that the plant displays some differences according to soil, exposure to wind etc. Please look it up and see what you think. If any experts can throw more light on the specific distinctions between these species that would be great! Thanks for posting this plant. Do try the fruits if you get a chance to pick them before the monkeys. They are very sweet. The seeds germinate easily and you can propagate the trees! regards Radha

efi page on Phoenix loureiroi (Syn: Phoenix humilis Royle ex Becc. [Illegitimate]; Phoenix humilis var. loureiroi (Kunth) Becc.; Phoenix pusilla Lour. [Illegitimate]; Phoenix hanceana Naudin; Phoenix hanceana var. formosana Becc.; Phoenix hanceana var. philippinensis Becc.; Phoenix humilis var. hanceana (Naudin) Becc.; Phoenix pygmaea Raeusch. [Invalid]; Phoenix humilis var. pedunculata (Griff.) Becc.; Phoenix humilis var. robusta Becc.; Phoenix humilis var. typica Becc. [Invalid]; Phoenix loureiroi var. humilis S.Barrow; Phoenix ouseleyana Griff.; Phoenix pedunculata Griff.; Phoenix robusta (Becc.) Hook.f.) as per Palms of Southern Asia By Andrew Henderson (2009);

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[Sourav Mahmud]

Do not occur in Bangladesh

[surajit koley]

Can anybody please tell me which Phoenix species (one or many) have leaflets with copper/rust (or anything other than green) colored tips?

Thank you

Regards

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Henderson ji.

 

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From: Henderson, Andrew

Date: 29 September 2014 22:46
Subject: RE: [efloraofindia:200665] identification no 17/09/2014sn1
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Phoenix are difficult to identify if the locality is unknown. In cultivation they hybridize. Is this a wild plant?

[Satish Nikam]

Yes it is wild plant Regards Satish nikam

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