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Bhatt Sweta

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Sep 21, 2011, 5:18:39 AM9/21/11
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To me, it seems to be the foliage of Nyctanthes arbor-tristis
However, need further confirmation.

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Shweta

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mani nair

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Sep 21, 2011, 5:24:38 AM9/21/11
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Dear Shweta ji, looks like Nyctanthes arbortristis (Parijat or Harsingar)
 
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Mani Nair

Bhatt Sweta

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Sep 21, 2011, 5:27:06 AM9/21/11
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Location - Mumbai

Unidentified tree.
The spreading branches and the young leaves are the characteristic feature of this plant, without any flowers.
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Bhatt Sweta

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Sep 21, 2011, 5:27:57 AM9/21/11
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Thanks Maniji

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Shweta

prasad dash

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Sep 21, 2011, 5:35:30 AM9/21/11
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Looks like Diospyrous sp.

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Giby Kuriakose

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Sep 21, 2011, 5:52:05 AM9/21/11
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Species of Diospyros (note the spelling) to me as well.


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Joshi Pankaj

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Sep 21, 2011, 6:07:13 AM9/21/11
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yes...

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Bhatt Sweta

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Sep 21, 2011, 6:09:02 AM9/21/11
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Thanks Joshiji.

Regards,
Shweta

prasad dash

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Sep 21, 2011, 6:15:52 AM9/21/11
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I think Diospyros malabarica

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Prasad

Madhuri Raut

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Sep 21, 2011, 6:40:19 AM9/21/11
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Yes looks like Parijatak. It gets flowers with divine fragrance
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Bhagyashri

Bhatt Sweta

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Sep 21, 2011, 6:47:08 AM9/21/11
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Yes, white flowers with orange stalk, which i have read is often used as an adulterant in Saffron.

Also, the flowers are supposedly believed to be favorite of Lord Shiva.

Regards,
Shweta

Madhuri Raut

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Sep 21, 2011, 8:56:06 AM9/21/11
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Is it .to my Knowledje they are a favourite to Lord Krishna ha ha
This flower has been discussed in a previous thread but I do not know how to give a link to a thread but some mythological stories

1.Nyctanthes arbortristis .Commonly known as Coral Jasmine.This is Harsinghar in Hindi and Sephalika/Seoli in Bangla.Legand says that in the earlier life this plant was a beautiful girl and was in love with Sun God.As the Sun did not notice this unilateral love the girl died.A plant came up at that place.As Sun neglected her the flowers of this plant fall on the ground before the Sun rises.

 

There is also a mythological story about Parijatak which I would like to share

During samudra manthan (churning of the ocean), the gods had obtained Parijataka, the tree with divine fragrance. This tree was planted in the garden of Indra, the king of gods. One day, SageNarada went to this garden and collected some flowers that had fallen from the treeand gave them to Rukmini, Krishna's wife. Rukmini was very happy but when Satyabhama, another wife of Krishna, smelled its fragrance, she asked Krishna to bring her the tree. After defeating Indra, Krishna brought the tree on earth. But a quarrel started between Rukmini and Satyabhama, as both of them wanted the tree.

 

Krishna planted the tree in Satyabhama's courtyard in such a way that its flowers fell in Rukmini's house and in this way both his wives were happy.

 

any particular reason why you have written the name as Nyctanthes arbor-tristis with a dash?

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Bhagyashri

 

Bhatt Sweta

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Sep 22, 2011, 2:08:13 AM9/22/11
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Ok. Then i shall tag it as  Diospyros malabarica.

Thanks for the identification Gibyji, Prasadji

Regards,
Shweta.

Giby Kuriakose

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Sep 23, 2011, 9:29:30 AM9/23/11
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I could id this as Diospyros. 

Guessing species from the pictures provided is difficult as characters for species are not visible in those pictures. 


Regards
Giby

Ushadi micromini

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Sep 23, 2011, 10:35:15 PM9/23/11
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Diospyros ok... what kind? I cant tell just from leaves.. not an
expert by any means....

BUT but definitely not Nyctanthus..

Parijat leaves.. young ones are never red... AND never droop as they
are here...in the second set of pictures...
I should perhaps know... my mom's garden had two... for more than 40
years...

I grew up playing under them... and collecting flowers... local women
came to collect these ..they used to leave their saris spread under
the trees.. since the flowers open around 4 am and drop as the day
light becomes harsher..best one were the ones that dropped early on..
used for various pujas... and some underhanded folks use the dried
stalks to adulterate saffron sold in the market ...


@Bhagyashri: what you wrote about Parijat is true.. but this plant in
the pic is not a Parijat...

Usha di
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On Sep 23, 6:29 pm, Giby Kuriakose <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I could id this as *Diospyros. *
>
> Guessing species from the pictures provided is difficult as characters for
> species are not visible in those pictures.
>
> Regards
> Giby
>
> On 22 September 2011 11:38, Bhatt Sweta <bhattsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> > Ok. Then i shall tag it as  *Diospyros malabarica.*
> > *
> > *
> > Thanks for the identification Gibyji, Prasadji
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> > Regards,
> > Shweta.
>
> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:45 PM, prasad dash <prasad.dash2...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >> I think *Diospyros malabarica*
>
> >> Regards
> >> Prasad
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> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Giby Kuriakose <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
> >> > wrote:
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> >>> Species of *Diospyros *(note the spelling) to me as well.
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> >>> Regards
> >>> Giby
>
> >>> On 21 September 2011 15:05, prasad dash <prasad.dash2...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>> Looks like Diospyrous sp.
>
> >>>> Regards
>
> >>>> prasad
>
> >>>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Bhatt Sweta <bhattsw...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>> Location - Mumbai
>
> >>>>> Unidentified tree.
> >>>>> The spreading branches and the young leaves are the characteristic
> >>>>> feature of this plant, without any flowers.
>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> *Bhatt Shweta*
> >>>>> *Doctoral Research Student,*
> >>>>> M.S.U.
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Prasad Kumar Dash
> >>>> Ecologist, Orissa, India
> >>>> email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com
> >>>> ph. 09437444241
>
> >>> --
> >>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD
> >>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE),
> >>> Royal Enclave,
> >>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura
> >>> Bangalore- 560064
> >>> India
> >>> Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile)
> >>> visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
>
> >> --
> >> Prasad Kumar Dash
> >> Ecologist, Orissa, India
> >> email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com
> >> ph. 09437444241
>
> > --
> > *Bhatt Shweta*
> > *Doctoral Research Student,*

prasad dash

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Sep 24, 2011, 2:10:51 AM9/24/11
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Dear all both the images showed following characters 

Bark turing black towards maturity, Leaves simple, alternate, oblong-lanceolate, acute apex, Leaf stalk 10-15 mm long (Seen in picture), Young leaves are reddish (Also seen in first picture). 

Are leaves leathery when touched ?

Its really difficult to conform the ID with morphological characters, but the available information pointing towards Diospyros malabarica?

Regards

Prasad
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Bhatt Sweta

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Sep 27, 2011, 5:23:54 AM9/27/11
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Dear Prasadji,

The leaves were very smooth to touch (similar to when we touch the young leaves of Polyalthia).

Regards,
Shweta

hari lal

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Sep 27, 2011, 5:39:57 AM9/27/11
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pls check it the character of Botanical name

Diospyros malabarica (Desr) Kostel.

Family

Ebenaceae

Sanskrit Synonyms

Tinduka, Tinduki

Ayurvedic Medicinal Properties

 

Rasa

Tikta, Kashaya, Katu

Guna

Guru

Virya

Seeta

Name of the herb in other languages

 

English

Indian persimon

Hindi

Gabh. Tedu

Malayalam

Panachi, Pananji, Panacha

Description of the Plant

 

A medium sized tree grows up to 15 meters in height. Leaves simple, alternate, or sub opposite, oblong-lanceolate, acute, or sometimes obtuse, glabrous, with prominent venation. Flowers unisexual, males in drooping cymes and female simple sessile. Fruits globose, yellow in ripe, with 4-8 compressed seeds.

Medicinal Properties of the Plant as per Ayurveda

Plant pacifies vitiated pitta, kapha, burning sensation, inflammations, diarrhea, hemorrhoids, diabetes, skin diseases, fever, leucorrhea, urinary tract infections, splenomegali, anemia, burns and scalds

Useful parts of the herb

 

Bark, Leaves, Flowers, Fruits

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ushadi Micromini

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Sep 27, 2011, 10:36:18 AM9/27/11
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Dear Hari Lalji:

THANKs for the info...
how did you type all that and format it in the email window?

or did you copy paste from your files?
I would like to know...
Thanks
Usha di
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H S

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Sep 28, 2011, 4:30:22 AM9/28/11
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yes foto here is Diospyros malabarica

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Bhatt Sweta

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Sep 28, 2011, 5:31:28 AM9/28/11
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Thanks Sir!
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