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This question has been raised in my mind for a long, time and again.My guess comes to around 1000 crore in terms of Rupees. It may be much much larger in terms of Dollars say $1000 Cr., if we were in the USA.This is taking into account the value of time so many of us have spent here as well as the enterprise value.There are valuers, who put value to a brand or an enterprise etc., but I do not know how they calculate it.We have benefited not only from the best of minds in the field of taxonomy but also from the best of talent in diverse fields. Passion has been the running theme in all these years. And we have a great team and trust among us.Our brand is so strong that it may be really difficult for anybody to replicate it and do things the way we are doing.And we always feel at any point of time that it is just like a beginning.--With regards,
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Though this value is not for earning money in the future, but for the provision of value to the society.Zomato which has been running in losses of around 2500 cr. on a turnover of around Rs. 2500 Cr. in the last year, has been valued at 1 lakh cr.My guess is only 1/100th of this for efloraofindia and we are not running into losses but are so happy to offer services free of cost to the society.On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 at 12:46, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:Dear moderators,
This question has been raised in my mind for a long, time and again.My guess comes to around 1000 crore in terms of Rupees. It may be much much larger in terms of Dollars say $1000 Cr., if we were in the USA.This is taking into account the value of time so many of us have spent here as well as the enterprise value.There are valuers, who put value to a brand or an enterprise etc., but I do not know how they calculate it.We have benefited not only from the best of minds in the field of taxonomy but also from the best of talent in diverse fields. Passion has been the running theme in all these years. And we have a great team and trust among us.Our brand is so strong that it may be really difficult for anybody to replicate it and do things the way we are doing.And we always feel at any point of time that it is just like a beginning.--With regards,
J.M.Garg--With regards,
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Thanks Garg ji for sharing this perspective.The best part of efloraofindia is no one has any risk of loss at any time. Instead, it is always profit or benefit. Not to mention the immense benefit that the flora community reaps. Self satisfaction is at its height, just as much we pursue our other passions.Regards.Dinesh
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Yes Agree with Garg JiThis platform has satisfied the hunger for research of so many people like me. While being in a College, we are not allowed to have research students. Also due to 4-5 Period workload daily does not allow us to do much in taxonomy research. So people like me are occasional researchers. Many eminent personalities like Dinesh Valke ji, who are not from Botany background and many others also practising taxonomy as per their convenience and availability of time. Without such a platform our efforts may have gone unnoticed. From the last 6-7 years, I have been getting 3-4 calls every week related to the availability, status or identity of many plants. Our many pictures are getting space in internationally recognised papers/journals. Even some people are using pics without permission or photo credit. Many new species have been recognised due to this group. All this happened due to such a beautiful platform Created by Garg Ji. Although I am not getting time to post nowadays due to my busy schedule, I am very hopeful to retain my old pace soon.ThanksRegardsBalkar Singh
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I think I am trying to be lousy by assigning so much value.I request others to pl. come up with their views as it was just a thought.I would love to hear from others.
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Yes, true, Lalithamba ji.
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On Sat, 14 Aug, 2021, 1:52 pm Lalithamba Avadhanam, <alali...@gmail.com> wrote:
the passion , satisfaction, noble sacrifice (in sharing their collections) and above non-commercial mind of the group is above all physical/commercial values.makes efi supreme. It is the true spirit of our Nationality.
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Well said, Dinesh ji
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Thanks Garg ji for sharing this perspective.The best part of efloraofindia is no one has any risk of loss at any time. Instead, it is always profit or benefit. Not to mention the immense benefit that the flora community reaps. Self satisfaction is at its height, just as much we pursue our other passions.Regards.Dinesh
On Sat, 14 Aug 2021, 13:04 Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan, <ponsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
The satisfaction we got when we looked back at eflora and efloraofindia site, is matchless and worth several 100 crores.Thanks & regardsDr. Santhan PIndustrial R&D expert, Plant taxonomistAuthor of the Book "Trees of our Life" Botany, Chemistry, Medicine9444813474/9620389349
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Though this value is not for earning money in the future, but for the provision of value to the society.Zomato which has been running in losses of around 2500 cr. on a turnover of around Rs. 2500 Cr. in the last year, has been valued at 1 lakh cr.My guess is only 1/100th of this for efloraofindia and we are not running into losses but are so happy to offer services free of cost to the society.
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Dear moderators,
This question has been raised in my mind for a long, time and again.My guess comes to around 1000 crore in terms of Rupees. It may be much much larger in terms of Dollars say $1000 Cr., if we were in the USA.This is taking into account the value of time so many of us have spent here as well as the enterprise value.There are valuers, who put value to a brand or an enterprise etc., but I do not know how they calculate it.We have benefited not only from the best of minds in the field of taxonomy but also from the best of talent in diverse fields. Passion has been the running theme in all these years. And we have a great team and trust among us.Our brand is so strong that it may be really difficult for anybody to replicate it and do things the way we are doing.And we always feel at any point of time that it is just like a beginning.--With regards,
J.M.Garg
Thanks, Paradesi ji.
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Wah!!! So well expressed, Nidhan ji.We have no doubt that we will have so many Kasaju's, Singh's, Kumar's, Valke's, Raman's, Manoj's ..... in future times to come.
On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 12:20, Nidhan Singh <nidhans...@gmail.com> wrote:With all salutes to eFI, the monetary estimation of this Herculean task seems unworkable. The hours, minutes and moments spent in recording the pics, uploading them, invoking discussions and searching the databases, before reaching to conclusions have all been invaluable.--The complete saga of starting, uprising and establishment (which is almost here, now) of this treasure of authentic information cannot be equated in wealth.The skeleton of raw data, poured in by the esteemed contributors from practically every part of our country, is properly decorated with flesh and blood in the form of endless efforts by Garg Ji, and all the active members (no naming required), that too without much financial involvement. On the contrary, if we imagine the creation of such a database without selfless collaborations, the amount projected by Garg Ji does not look like any exaggeration.I am happy to be a part of this family, since 2010-11. At present, I do not find myself in a position to contribute actively, but quite hopefully, I may be able to invest some time in keeping myself a part of this progression. However, I feel content that amidst ups and downs of life, I was never completely detached from the forum.Everyone can see that many plants discussed here turned out to be novelties later on. No doubt, efloraofindia is on the firm footing now, and we can boast of its achievements.Thanks for reading this..!!
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Thanks a lot, Pankaj ji.You said so much within so few words.You have been an inspiration to so many of us here like many others.Btw, what happened that you are in a hospital ?
I agree with Dr.Balkar singh Ji,I have also fully enjoyed the platform with discussing gentles.It's great platform to share knowledge young man to retired scietists.🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
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Yes Agree with Garg JiThis platform has satisfied the hunger for research of so many people like me. While being in a College, we are not allowed to have research students. Also due to 4-5 Period workload daily does not allow us to do much in taxonomy research. So people like me are occasional researchers. Many eminent personalities like Dinesh Valke ji, who are not from Botany background and many others also practising taxonomy as per their convenience and availability of time. Without such a platform our efforts may have gone unnoticed. From the last 6-7 years, I have been getting 3-4 calls every week related to the availability, status or identity of many plants. Our many pictures are getting space in internationally recognised papers/journals. Even some people are using pics without permission or photo credit. Many new species have been recognised due to this group. All this happened due to such a beautiful platform Created by Garg Ji. Although I am not getting time to post nowadays due to my busy schedule, I am very hopeful to retain my old pace soon.ThanksRegardsBalkar Singh
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I think I am trying to be lousy by assigning so much value.I request others to pl. come up with their views as it was just a thought.I would love to hear from others.
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Yes, true, Lalithamba ji.
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the passion , satisfaction, noble sacrifice (in sharing their collections) and above non-commercial mind of the group is above all physical/commercial values.makes efi supreme. It is the true spirit of our Nationality.
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 1:36 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:Well said, Dinesh ji
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Thanks a lot, Balkar ji
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Yes, true, Lalithamba ji.
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Thanks, Pankaj ji.Do not worry. Things will be alright.
On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 16:27, Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have no idea sir. Lot is tests, ct scan, X-ray, serum analysis, skin swab culture are being done and all are coming negative. Even doctors don’t know!!
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Wah!!! So well expressed, Nidhan ji.We have no doubt that we will have so many Kasaju's, Singh's, Kumar's, Valke's, Raman's, Manoj's ..... in future times to come.
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With all salutes to eFI, the monetary estimation of this Herculean task seems unworkable. The hours, minutes and moments spent in recording the pics, uploading them, invoking discussions and searching the databases, before reaching to conclusions have all been invaluable.The complete saga of starting, uprising and establishment (which is almost here, now) of this treasure of authentic information cannot be equated in wealth.The skeleton of raw data, poured in by the esteemed contributors from practically every part of our country, is properly decorated with flesh and blood in the form of endless efforts by Garg Ji, and all the active members (no naming required), that too without much financial involvement. On the contrary, if we imagine the creation of such a database without selfless collaborations, the amount projected by Garg Ji does not look like any exaggeration.I am happy to be a part of this family, since 2010-11. At present, I do not find myself in a position to contribute actively, but quite hopefully, I may be able to invest some time in keeping myself a part of this progression. However, I feel content that amidst ups and downs of life, I was never completely detached from the forum.Everyone can see that many plants discussed here turned out to be novelties later on. No doubt, efloraofindia is on the firm footing now, and we can boast of its achievements.Thanks for reading this..!!
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GargJiSorry for the late reply. I was busy with several personal affairs and not watching efi for past few months owing to this. Indeed our efi site cannot be assessed in terms of money. Several information pertaining to Indian flora are vested with us and is not readily available elsewhere. We also helping researchers and students laboriously and to other lay people alike without any return. How can we value the smile of our beloved ones in terms of money. Likewise our database and the treasure trove of information cannot be judged. Our team is our strength and the bonding is our future.Get well soon dear PankajJi.
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Garg Ji, no amount can compensate for the efforts put in by you and all the contributors. Your valuation of efloraofindia appears to be correct in terms of monetary value. You are devoting your days and nights to this database as a dynamic leader. Dr. Singh Sir, Dr. Rawat Ji, Dr. Pankaj Ji, Dr. Balkar Singh Ji, Dr. Nidhan Singh Ji, Dinesh Ji, Aarti madam, and many others have been working since the beginning of this group project. Saroj Ji, though joined late, reached number 3 in terms of posts within a very short period. Every photograph clicked by the contributors has its own story as well. All of us also spend thousands in addition to the precious time for clicking rare plants. I remember, when I ventured out in search of a specific plant, and in the end, no results. I have wandered for so many days in search of Skimmia anquetilia and Habenaria intermedia. The same is the story of other plant lovers as well. If this is also taken into consideration, your valuation is near to perfect. Every one of us is associated selflessly with this academic project and contributing in his/her own way. I am proud to be associated with efloraofindia, which I always mention during my lectures. I have learned a lot from this group. Once I had asked Dr. Singh Sir, how to become a good taxonomist? especially when one’s research training is in other disciplines (as my Ph.D. was in stress biology of crop plants). He gave a simple mantra, “start loving and observing plants”.
Get well soon Dr. Pankaj Ji.
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Dear moderators,
This question has been raised in my mind for a long, time and again.My guess comes to around 1000 crore in terms of Rupees. It may be much much larger in terms of Dollars say $1000 Cr., if we were in the USA.This is taking into account the value of time so many of us have spent here as well as the enterprise value.There are valuers, who put value to a brand or an enterprise etc., but I do not know how they calculate it.We have benefited not only from the best of minds in the field of taxonomy but also from the best of talent in diverse fields. Passion has been the running theme in all these years. And we have a great team and trust among us.Our brand is so strong that it may be really difficult for anybody to replicate it and do things the way we are doing.And we always feel at any point of time that it is just like a beginning.
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