MS, July, 2026/04 Colocasia sp. for id

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M Sawmliana

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Jul 30, 2026, 12:55:45 AMJul 30
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Location : Lurh tlang, Mizoram
Altitude : ca.1,800 m
Date : 29-7-2026
Habit : Herb
Habitat : Wild
Mizo : Bakhik / Vânbâl

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M.Sawmliana

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M Sawmliana

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Jul 30, 2026, 10:08:48 AMJul 30
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Colocasia oresbia ? 

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 30, 2026, 11:07:27 AMJul 30
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Are there two different species ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 31, 2026, 12:57:16 AMJul 31
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Images 1,2,3 and 6 look like Colocasia esculenta (L.) Schott.
Please check.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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I can't say. This Colocasia is growing in slightly higher elevation between 1,500 and 1,800 m altitude near Myanmar border. 

J.M. Garg

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Aug 18, 2026, 4:42:41 AMAug 18
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Colocasia oresbia ? - from Sawmliana ji 

Are there two different species ??
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

I can't say. This Colocasia is growing in slightly higher elevation between 1,500 and 1,800 m altitude near Myanmar border. - from Sawmliana ji 

Images 1,2,3 and 6 look like Colocasia esculenta (L.) Schott.
Please check.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

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Colocasia sp (1).jpg
Colocasia sp (2).jpg
Colocasia sp (3).jpg
Colocasia sp (7).jpg
Colocasia sp (6).jpg
Colocasia sp (5).jpg
Colocasia sp (4).jpg

Peter J MATTHEWS

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Aug 18, 2026, 5:49:19 AMAug 18
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Very interesting photos!

It will take a little time for me to look at them properly.

Thanks, 

Peter

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J.M. Garg

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Aug 19, 2026, 1:17:17 AMAug 19
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Thanks a lot, Peter ji

Peter J MATTHEWS

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Aug 20, 2026, 9:13:58 PMAug 20
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Dear all,

I have edited the photo set and added comments at the end alongside a plate from a paper describing C. yunnanensis in northern Vietnam. The tentative ids here are all I can offer!

The higher elevation at India/Myanmar border is consistent with a cold tolerant species found at lower altitudes in northern Vietnam and southern China.

If these plants can be confirmed as part of a widespread C. yunnanensis population or species group, that would be a major advance in our understanding of Colocasia biogeography!

Best regards, Peter


PJ Matthews (21st August)

Photos 1-6 Colocasia cf. yunnanensis
Photos 5-6 Colocasia ?sp. nova (cf. yunnanensis)

Inflorescence of Colocasia ?sp. nova (cf. yunnanensis)
has long sterile appendage contra C. yunnanensis.

The photos show two different species; both may be
closely related to C.  yunnanensis based on: 
  • leaf shape (round with shallow sinus)
  • spathe aperture open for a large proportion of spathe
  • spathe convoluted and conical at top
  • petioles decorated with blotchy/uneven purple colour


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India nr Myanmar border 2026.pdf

Peter J MATTHEWS

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Aug 20, 2026, 9:16:03 PMAug 20
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Sorry - correction.

The altitudes of the new sites and in Vietnam/China are similar. 

The wording should have been:

The altitudes at India/Myanmar border is consistent with cold-tolerant C. yunnanensis found at similar altitudes in northern Vietnam and southern China.


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J.M. Garg

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Aug 21, 2026, 12:27:11 AMAug 21
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Thanks a lot, Peter ji

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J.M.Garg, 
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J.M. Garg

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Aug 21, 2026, 12:27:25 AMAug 21
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Thanks a lot, Peter ji

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J.M.Garg, 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Aug 21, 2026, 4:54:26 AMAug 21
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So it is actually Colocasia fallax Schott ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Peter J MATTHEWS

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Aug 21, 2026, 5:15:18 AMAug 21
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Saroj ji

That looks very weird to me! There may have been some old taxonomic confusion, but the currently recognised species are very far apart.

 In fact, Colocasia fallax was very recently put in its own genus as Cryptocasia fallax… Which I think is probably realistic, from what we see at DNA level.

Peter


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Saroj Kasaju

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Aug 21, 2026, 5:28:55 AMAug 21
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Actually, it is very difficult for non botanists like me to come to a conclusion easily. Databases 
say it differently. By the way, it is only because of the real botanists that we learn a lot and
still in the process of learning. I just came to know that it was in April 15, 2026 while googling 
and not yet updated in any database except in the IPNI.

Thank you Dr. Matthews.

Saroj Kasaju

Peter J MATTHEWS

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Aug 21, 2026, 6:19:05 AMAug 21
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Dear all,

After retiring in March last year, I could do some fieldwork with one last research grant...

From now on, most of what I learn will have to come from the discoveries of others.

So I am very happy to see all the photographs you send!

Thanks, Peter

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