Acanthaceae Fortnight : Thunbergia For ID : Jijamata Udyan,Mumbai : 31MAR15 : AK-36

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Aarti S. Khale

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Mar 31, 2015, 6:33:33 AM3/31/15
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Thunbergia grandiflora?
Kindly validate.
Aarti
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 4, 2015, 12:08:25 AM4/4/15
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

efi page on Thunbergia grandiflora                                         


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Date: 31 March 2015 at 16:03
Subject: [efloraofindia:219911] Acanthaceae Fortnight : Thunbergia For ID : Jijamata Udyan,Mumbai : 31MAR15 : AK-36
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Thunbergia grandiflora?
Kindly validate.
Aarti

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surajit koley

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Apr 4, 2015, 2:39:54 AM4/4/15
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Aarti Ji,

Attached here FI description and Icones plate relating to T. grandiflora Roxb. I think inflorescence of T. grandiflora Roxb. is not featured by long drooping elongated raceme like the T. laurifolia Lindl. But, my view is personal only, because following eflora does not support my view -

Going by the above site, and also with old lit. I have found in the net there is no other way to visually differentiate the two species except for the leaf, petiole, flower size.

Going by the leaf shape, texture (dull against shiny?) I would rather vote for T. laurifolia Lindl.

I may be wrong suggesting the above.

Thank you
Regards


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Aarti S. Khale

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Apr 4, 2015, 11:43:34 AM4/4/15
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Surajit Ji,
Thanks for your suggested id, links and additional information.
Let us wait for more comments.
Really appreciate the efforts taken by you.
Regards,
Aarti

Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 4, 2015, 4:52:36 PM4/4/15
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Aarti
so did you read all those things that Surajit sent you?

what do you think your case is?

PLEASE LET ME//US KNOW

usha di

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 4, 2015, 11:50:23 PM4/4/15
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From: M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>
Date: 5 April 2015 at 08:47
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:219911] Acanthaceae Fortnight : Thunbergia For ID : Jijamata Udyan,Mumbai : 31MAR15 : AK-36
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>


ID is correct.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:38 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Aarti S. Khale

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Apr 5, 2015, 2:13:43 AM4/5/15
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Thanks Mahadeswara Ji and Garg Ji.
Regards,
Aarti

Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 5, 2015, 3:12:39 AM4/5/15
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Gargji:
Please dont mark this as complete
its not complete  as far as the differential diagnosis is concerned
there are still afew lingering doubts  based on the australian experience  pages

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surajit koley

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Apr 5, 2015, 3:26:23 AM4/5/15
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Well Didi, Garg Sir, Mahadeswara Sir, Aarti Ji,

from my part I am not opposing any suggested ID.

Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 5, 2015, 5:45:34 AM4/5/15
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iti
this is not anybody's phd or even MS thesis

I have wasted enough time on this case

I am inclined to let it be...
lets close it
and mark it as complete if Gargji so desires...

when I run into one of these I'll take my usual umteen pictures with rulers and then we will see...
hopefully comparison of both species will be found soon...
Thanks Surajit

bye

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Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Dec 3, 2020, 4:14:14 AM12/3/20
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My opinion is Thunbergia lauriflolia !
Thank you
Saroj Kasaju

Gurcharan Singh

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Mar 17, 2021, 2:01:06 AMMar 17
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Yes Saroj ji you are right
There has been lot of discussion whenever T. grandiflora or T. lauriflora was uploaded by any member. Here are the differences
Thunbergia grandiflora                                                       Thunbergia laurifolia
1. Leaves ovate, to 20 cm long, angular toothed,            1.  Leaves ovate-lanceolate, to 12 cm long, much longer than broad
almost as broad as long. 
2. Leaf base deeply cordate                                                2. Leaf based narrowed or shallowly cordate
3. Pedicel 4-5 cm long                                                          3. Pedicel 2 cm long 

Here are my two plants from Delhi

Thunbergia-grandiflora-right-T-laurifolia-left-18-10-DSC05977-a.jpg
Thunbergia grand-lauri-Delhi.jpg

Aarti S. Khale

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Mar 17, 2021, 5:11:35 AMMar 17
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Thanks Saroj Ji.
I seem to have missed your reply earlier.
Regards,
Aarti

On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 2:44:14 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:

Aarti S. Khale

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Mar 17, 2021, 5:12:47 AMMar 17
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Gurcharan Ji,
Thanks for letting us know the differences.
Regards,
Aarti 

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 17, 2021, 9:00:47 AMMar 17
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Thank you Guru Charan sir for the enlightenment.
Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 17, 2021, 9:01:32 AMMar 17
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My Pleasure !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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