Identification Request for Genus Rubus

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Shakir Ahmad

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May 14, 2026, 12:31:53 PMMay 14
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Help me to identify this Rubus sp. From Kashmir valley. 
Attitude :- 2000-2300 mtrs
Flowering period:- Mid may
Diagnostic features:- Stem hairy and glandular initially but later becomes glabrous, reddish brown. leaves 3 to 5 foliate adxially nearly glabrous and abaxially white tomentose, flower resembles with R.niveus, infloresence Raceme or paniculiform.

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Saroj Kasaju

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May 15, 2026, 1:54:49 AMMay 15
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Please check Rubus niveus Thunb.

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Saroj Kasaju


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Sofi Sam #02

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May 15, 2026, 2:23:17 AMMay 15
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R.niveus is totally different from this species. I dont think this is Rubus niveus.
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Shakir Ahmad

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May 16, 2026, 12:00:14 PMMay 16
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Yes it is Rubus niveus.. But differs in most of the characters..... 

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Sofi Sam #02

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May 16, 2026, 12:06:26 PMMay 16
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Not at all, it can't be Rubus niveus, i have seen its fruit also it is quite different from R.niveus. its leaf and stem characters are totally different.
I am 100% sure it is not Rubus niveus.
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Saroj Kasaju

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May 16, 2026, 12:10:27 PMMay 16
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This sps. has got many variations in characters.

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Saroj Kasaju


Sofi Sam #02

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May 16, 2026, 12:19:05 PMMay 16
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Rubus niveus has white pruinose stem and later becomes glabrescent. R.niveus does not 
have tomentose stem with stipitate glands. Also in R. niveus pedicel lacks glands, also fruit is different
In R. niveus. This species has bright red fruit with black dot in in each drupelet.
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 13, 2026, 2:43:40 AMJun 13
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Than what can it be, Sofi Ji?



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Sofi Sam #02

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Jun 13, 2026, 3:33:51 AMJun 13
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I have compared this species and eventually i found  the species is, Rubus hoffmeisterianus Kunth & C.D.Bouché.

J.M. Garg

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Jun 20, 2026, 3:25:17 AM (8 days ago) Jun 20
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Thanks, Sofi ji.
You seem to be right.
It appears close to the GBIF specimen


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