Plant for ID: 311011 SRANA 03 Plant from Paddar Kishtwar J&K

[Suresh Kumar Rana]

Identification request

Date 14^th June 2011

Location: Paddar valley district Kishtwar J&K.

Altitude: 4130 meters asl

GPS: 33.30 N and 76.34 E

Plant habit/habitat: Wild herb

Plant height; 1-2 feets

 

Thanks and regards

 

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Suresh Rana,

Research Scholar Environmental Sciences,

University of Jammu.

Mb. 09419935911

[Gurcharan Singh]

Primula macrophylla

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[Suresh Rana]

Thanks a lot Sir

Suresh Rana

[chrischa...@btinternet.com]

I consider this to be an UNIDENTIFIED TAXON WITHIN THE PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA COMPLEX.

May I draw attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden).  The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato - meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century.

Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century).  It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions.  Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future.

Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species.

The image taken in the Paddar fits with what I photographed on the Sinthan Pass in the Kashmir Valley (with borders Kishtwar).  It does not fit Primula macrophylla (P.macrophylla var. macrophylla) nor Primula moorcroftiana (P.macrophylla var. moorcroftiana) nor Primula meeboldii.  It may well represent a separate taxon which in time might be published as a distinct species.

I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang Pass in Hiamchal Pradesh.  P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m.

I have found Primula macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot - so may well be subdivided at some point but the plant photographed in the VOF is not Primula moorcroftiana nor P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ji

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[J.M. Garg]

It appears more closer to Primula macrophylla var. moocroftiana rather than Primula macrophylla as per images and details herein.

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J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

In fact appears more close to Primula nivalis as per

http://encyclopaedia.alpinegardensociety.net/plants/Primula/nivalis

http://www.primulaworld.com/PWweb/gallery/nivalis.html

http://botanicalillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=838233&mobile=0

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sunit ji.

On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 17:23, Sunit Singh <botani...@gmail.com> wrote:

yes Respected sir.

With Regards

Sunit Singh

Ph.D. Research Scholar

Department of Botany and Microbiology

HNB central University, Uttarakhand.

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Gurcharan Singh]

Garg ji

Primula nivalis differs from P, macrophylla (which was previously placed under P. nivalis as a variety) in leaves with denticulate margin, and shorter leaves as against entire margin and longer leaves in Primula macrophylla. I don't think after separation of P. macrophylla and P. moorcroftiana, P. nivalis would be found in India.

Any one having access to The Genus Primula L. in India : A Taxonomic Revision by S.K. Basak, G. Maiti & P.K. Hajra  published in 2014 can confirm.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

Mob: 9810359089

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