SK1992 11 June 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Godawari, Lalitpur,, Nepal

Altitude: 1566 m.

Date: 04 June 2019

Habit : Wild

Actinodaphne sikkimensis Meisn. ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Looks different from images at Actinodaphne sikkimensis

May be some Neolitsea/ Litsea species as per comparative images herein.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Garg,

Does not look matching with both sp. and all listed in ACFPN

whichever images available in the net.

Fruits are in a bunch of more than 10, all facing upwards

and tapering at the end and almost pointed.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Looks different from images at Actinodaphne sikkimensis

May be some Neolitsea/ Litsea species as per comparative images herein.- from me

Does not look matching with both sp. and all listed in ACFPN whichever images available in the net. Fruits are in a bunch of more than 10, all facing upwards and tapering at the end and almost pointed. Thank you. Saroj Kasaju

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 at 14:23
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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Rajeev Singh ji.

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Dear Garg Ji,

Images are not of Actinodaphne sikkimensis, It is Litsea species. Flowers are lacking but very near to Litsea chartacea (Wall. ex Nees) Hook.f. 

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Rajeev Sir,

Yes it matches I guess. Measurement of drupe is also matching.

L. chartacea

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Saroj ji 

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[JM Garg]

I feel it can be Litsea doshia (D.Don) Kosterm. as per POWO specimen and GBIF specimens- one and two and Online Flora of Nepal. 

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From: Saroj Kumar Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 11 June, 2019 at 2:23:58 pm UTC+5:30
Subject: SK1992 11 June 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Please compare with images at FoI ! https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FDoshi%2520Laurel.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FDoshi%2520Laurel.html&tbnid=B49-q_Hiv9o2HM&vet=12ahUKEwizwJK94oX7AhW2ktgFHT1aAncQMygAegUIARC7AQ..i&docid=zPdabgPhly8DVM&w=600&h=450&q=litsea%20doshia&hl=en&client=safari&ved=2ahUKEwizwJK94oX7AhW2ktgFHT1aAncQMygAegUIARC7AQ

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Can not say about FOI images.

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[J.M. Garg]

I think Thingnam ji's images of L.doshia in FOI looks like those of Litsea glutinosa

L.doshia is restricted to Nepal as per POWO.

Tabish ji may like to correct.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Finally, flowers after 3 and half years.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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http://www.floraofnepal.org/onlineflora?wildcard_label=Litsea+doshia&wildcard=32

Hope ID is correct.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Is it from the same place: Godawari, Lalitpur,, Nepal?

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Same tree.

Than you Mr. Garg.

Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

OK

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[Saroj Kasaju]

So ID is OK according to flowers ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

I think so.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Nepali Names : पहेँली Pahenlee / काठे काउलो Kaathe Kaaulo 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Litsea chartacea

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Tapas Da for the correction .

Dear Mr. Garg: It needs to be corrected in the site, and https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/VzyfCPNi-JI

as well.

Dear Tabish / Dinesh ji : Please ignore the Nepali Names I have sent earlier. There is no Nepali Name 

for this sp. so far.

Saroj Kasaju

[Dinesh Valke]

Many thanks, Saroj ji, noted.

Regards.

Dinesh

[Saroj Kasaju]

OK Dineh Ji.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Tapas ji,

We have kept it at 
https://efloraofindia.com/2022/11/12/litsea-doshia/
Is this id not correct?

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Dear Garg ji,

I think the images in the link provided by you represent Litsea chartacea (Wall. ex Nees) Hook.f. because here the flowering and fruiting umbels are clustered on branches and leaf axils (may be on short brachyblasts) unlike Litsea doshia in which the umbels are borne on special short branches simulating racemes.

With kind regards,

Tapas Chakrabarty.

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Tapas Da for for clarification.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Tapas ji,
May I request you to pl. go through POWO specimen and GBIF specimens- one and two of Litsea doshia

Pl. see the fruits and their attachments to the stems. and also the back side of the leaf.

These appear to be more closer to the posted plant. 

Look different from Litsea chartacea (Wall. ex Nees) Hook.f. as per GBIF specimens (one, two). 

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Dear Garg ji,
So far as my knowledge goes, Lisea doshia is characterized by the umbels borne on short branches looking like a raceme whereas the umbels in L. charracea are clustered on main branchlets and in the axils of the leaves.
With regards,
Tapas

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Tapas ji.

But it looks different than stated by you as per POWO specimen and GBIF specimens- one and two of Litsea doshia

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

I am unable to clarify any further with my limited knowledge on Litsea.

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Tapas Da / Mr. Garg

Enclosing some images of herbarium .

https://www.google.com/imgres?q=litsea%20doshia&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fbs.plantnet.org%2Fimage%2Fo%2F99052ee0690b6461532612c85d247320402d2bc9&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fidentify.plantnet.org%2Fk-world-flora%2Fobservations%2F1012790903&docid=IvrX2pPnpoLBRM&tbnid=LulVokhemoGolM&vet=12ahUKEwiptten2r2JAxVUR2wGHWnHG14QM3oECBcQAA..i&w=799&h=1280&hcb=2&ved=2ahUKEwiptten2r2JAxVUR2wGHWnHG14QM3oECBcQAA

http://plantdatabase.kath.gov.np/plants/litsea-doshia-buch--ham-ex-d-don-kosterm-kath027348

http://plantdatabase.kath.gov.np/plants/litsea-doshia-buch-ham-d-don-kosterm-kath038587

https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2592247222

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Here is the image of the holotype of Litsea doshia in which the umbels arranged on short racemes can be noticed.

Regards,

Tapas Chakrabarty.