please id this medicinal plant

[arjunan]

Dear friends,

Please id this medicinal plant & would be grateful if someone could give me the marathi name & also the uses.

Thanks a lot

--
Best !

Arjun.
7 acres Forest Garden & Seed Collective
at village: Pishvi
taluka: Velhe
district: Pune
Maharashtra.
Pin : 412 212
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[Senthilkumar]

Dear Arjun

It is Kalanchoe pinnata. Family: Crassulaceae.

For further information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalanchoe_pinnata

Regards

Senthilkumar U.

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University of Agricultural Sciences,
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Karnataka, India

[mani nair]

Marathi name - Pan phuti, because new plants grow from the leaves of this plant.  It has medicinal properties.  I have seen the leaves of this plant for sale in one nursery in Mumbai.

Regards,

Mani.

[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

Pics are too small, but I thought this could be Kalanchoe pinnata,
commonly used name earlier was Bryophyllum calycinum. Thanks for the
update Mr. Mani, I wasnt aware that it had been transfered to another
genus.
Regards
Pankaj

[arjunan]

A big thank you to everyone for the assistance

[arjunan]

Dear friends,

Recently got this plant & was told that it has some medicinal values, please id & also if possible tell me the marathi name.

Thanks.

--
Best !

Arjun.

at village: Pishvi
taluka: Velhe
district: Pune
Maharashtra.
Pin : 412 212

[tanay bose]

I think Cucurbitaceae member.
May be Citrullus sp

Tanay

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[Pankaj Kumar]

Ya, Watermelon (Citrullus lanatus) may be!!!
Regards
Pankaj

[arjunan]

dear friends,

this is definitely not from the cucumber family, but surely a medicinal plant..... please do excuse me for the poor photograph.

[Pankaj Kumar]

Hmmmm...yeah, it has no tendrils....
Sorry I overlooked....
Geraniaceae....?
Pankaj

[Gurcharan Singh]

I have been thinking of Pelargonium all the time!! The stem and leaf base reminds me of that.

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[nabha meghani]

Indeed.  I have a plant called ZitronenGeranie Pelargonium graveolens. I don't know if it is a medicinal plant. It has lemon scent and it keeps insects away. So I have them in every room. I shall take a foto of Zitronengeranie tomorrow and post it

Just once it had two flowers. Hope i shall find those fotos too tomorrow.

 

Regards

Nalini

[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

Dear Mr. Arjunan,
Can you please inform if it was wild or from some garden. Just to know
if there are wild Geraniums in Pune.
Regards
Pankaj

[arjunan]

Yes Nabhaji, you've id'd the plant & thanx to all

The leaves does have a lemon scent

[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes Nabha ji

You seem to have got the right species. I knew only P. zonale (which has different leaves), but somehow overall appearance reminded me of Pelargonium. I am happy that my guess helped.

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[arjunan]

Dear Pankaj ji,

I had picked these plants from a nursery in Pune & the nursery owner
was not there to give me the proper names etc, his father only told me
that these are good medicinal plants & is a mosquito repellant. But
when i carried these plants to my land about 65 kms from Pune, my co
worker on the land told me that he has seen them in the forests.....
when the rains give a respite i can confirm with you.

regards,

Arjun

[Pankaj Kumar]

Yeah and my id of the Family helped too, but sorry abt cucurbitaceae !!!
Pankaj

[Pankaj Kumar]

Sorry Mr. Aarjunan, ur post was not on display unless I posted my
reply. But I am not sure, if Pelargoniums are found in wild in India.
Any members from south may be of help, otherwise species may be
different. Geraniums/Pelargoniums do have very variables leaves and
without flowers it becomes tricky to id them.
Hope this is the correct id.
Regards
Pankaj

[Gurcharan Singh]

This is the beauty of the Group. It can pick up from a scratch and deliver the goods. I had thought about Pelargonium but remained quite as Cucurbitaceae was dominant view, but came out with Pelargonium when Cucurbitaceae was rejected and Pankaj ji hinted at Geraniaceae.

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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[arjunan]

Yes, i must say for a layman farmer like me to interact with all of you experts is really humbling...... thank you to all.

[Pankaj Kumar]

Dear Mr. Arjunan,
Being a farmer is a good thing, because you have more field knowledge
that most of the botanists sitting in office. And your id,
"dobighazameen"seems to be very touching to me too.
Just wanted to add, during one of my field work, one tribal girl found
an orchid for me. I am attaching a pdf of it. Hope you will love to
read the article of mine. This goes to other members too who may like
to read it. The article is on page 2-3.
Do give ur comments.
Regards
Pankaj

[Vijayasankar]

The story is very touching, Dr.Pankaj. You seem to be a good writer too! I would have felt more happy if you had noted her name at least from her friends. A variety of such incidents occur during explorations, and they remain green in our minds forever. Keep writing such interesting incidents.

With regards

Vijayasankar

[Gurcharan Singh]

Really nice write up, Pankaj ji and a great adventure. Keep the good work on. The knowledge about our Orchid wealth is surely going to enlarge through your efforts and dedication.

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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[tanay bose]

Nice write up Dr.Kumar. thanks for sharing this lovely incident
tanay

[arjunan]

dear pankaj ji,

Really nice write & thanx so much for sharing.

[Pankaj Kumar]

Thanks a lot Dr. Vijay, Dr. Gurcharan, Mr. Satyendra, Mr. Tanay and
Mr. Arjunan for appreciation and encouragements. The pdf of
newsletters are available for free on our website:
www.wii.gov.in

in the publication section:

http://www.wii.gov.in/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=97&Itemid=298

If you are interested then you may simply send one email to Mr.
K.K.Shrivastava - kks...@wii.gov.in or Dr. Jatinder Chadha -
jch...@wii.gov.in. Or you may send me your postal address I can post
it to you.

Regards
Pankaj

[mani nair]

Dear Mr.Arjunan,

Please send us a photo of the flower after it flowers.

Regards,

Mani.

[arjunan]

dear maniji,

This discussion has surely made Zitronen Geranie or Pelargonium graveolens (do correct me & also do give me the local marathi name if possible) very very special on my land.  

Surely will  take a photograph whenever it flowers & i hope it "flowers" :-))

[nabha meghani]

Hallo all,

 here are some fotos of Zitronengeranie ( german name. I don't know engl.name. Sorry).   Leaves and flowers taken in April 2008. I hope in this summer, it shall get some more Flowers.

Regards

Nalini

[Gurcharan Singh]

Thanks Nalini ji for sharing the photographs. 

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[tanay bose]

Dear Nalini Ji,

I am not aware of German name as I have no idea regarding the language. But the only the thing i can assume is the scientific name, which is ....

Pelargonium crispum (Berg.) L'Her. Engl.
gooseberry geranium, crisped-leaf geranium, lemon geranium, lemon-scented geranium, peach geranium.

Tanay

[nabha meghani]

Thank you Tanay ji,

i am not aware of the exact scientific name of my plant as I have no idea of botany. But when i search for Zitronengeranie under which the plant is known here, i get Pelargonium graveolens. So i leave it to the experts to identify my plant as well as that of Arjun ji.

I hope you agree with me?

Regards

Nalini

 

 

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Nalini ji and Tanay

Perhaps this will resolve the identity of plant posted by Naliniji, and possibly also Arjun ji

P. crispum: Leaves small, usually less than 2.5 cm long, margin toothed and incised but not divided, margin crisped; flowers 2-2.5 cm long, upper larger petals sometimes emarginate.

P. graveolens: Leaves large, usually longer than 5 cm, long petiolate, divided almost to the base into 5-7 lobes, lobes again divided into about 6 mm broad segments dentate along margin; flowers 1.5 cm long.

On that basis Naliniji's plant is clearly Pelargonium graveolens, and so is that of Arjun ji. There is some mix up of names. P. crispum is lemon geranium (that must have led Tanay to give this name) or Crisped-leaf geranium and P. graveolens the rose geranium or rose-scent geranium. But that in no way should affect the identification. Photograph of the plant is here with us.

Here are some links:

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelargonia_pachnąca

http://toptropicals.com/pics/garden/m1/raznozvet2/Pelargonium_graveolens9308.jpg

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/43430/

http://sc.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pelargonium_crispum1.jpg

But then there is a lot of confusion and mix up there on the internet, the images having been mixed up. That must also be reason for mix up of the names.  But my description is based on famous book "Manual of Cultivated Plants" by L. H. Bailey

[tanay bose]

Thanks for correcting me
Tanay